From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/12/2026 9:53 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/12/26 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >> On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 23:42:41 -0500, Noah Sombrero    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 19:55:00 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/11/2026 7:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You have no right to life.  Witnessing a few deaths teaches us   
   >>>>>> exactly   
   >>>>>> how fragile we are.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> You have the right to off yourself, or not.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Unless you try and fail, then many people in the world would tell you   
   >>>> you had no right to do that.   
   >>>   
   >>> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose   
   >>> certain situations on you, which they still might.   
   >>>   
   >>> But as far as the universe is concerned.  You have no rights.  There   
   >>> is no natural law to base social structures on.   
   >>>   
   >>> It there were  natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>> inalienable, derived from human nature and  reason rather than granted   
   >>> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be no way   
   >>> to not receive them.  Nobody would die, everybody would have liberty,   
   >>> and loving spouses.  The truth is you have no right to such things,   
   >>> and far too many around the world don't have them.   
   >>>   
   >>> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and inalienable, they   
   >>> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only americans. And   
   >>> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they can   
   >>> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.   
   >>   
   >> That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.   
   >>   
   >> Which is: There are certain principles that work better than others.   
   >> When human law and society aligns with those principles, the systems   
   >> created within that structure perform better, allowing greater human   
   >> flourishing.   
   >   
   > what worked last century, may not work this century, and will not work   
   > next century   
   >   
   Not sure you've thought this through, Nick. The planet earth doesn't   
   have humans rights yet, it's something to strive for in the future.   
      
   Here's a few words to help you with your online learning.   
      
   Definitions from Oxford Languages:   
      
   in·nate   
   /iˈnāt/   
   adjective   
   inborn; natural.   
      
   in·al·ien·a·ble   
   /inˈālēənəb(ə)l/   
   adjective   
   unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor.   
      
   nat·u·ral law   
   /ˌnaCHər(ə)l ˈlô,ˌnaCHər(ə)l ˈlä,ˌnaCHr(ə)l ˈlô,ˌnaCHr(ə)l   
   ˈlä/   
   noun   
   1.   
   a body of unchanging moral principles regarded as a basis for all human   
   conduct.   
    >   
   >  > the "law" can change when as technology unfolds   
   >  >   
   >  > #god   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)