From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 12:14:08 -0500, Wilson    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 2/13/2026 12:53 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/12/26 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>> On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose   
   >>>> certain situations on you, which they still might.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But as far as the universe is concerned.  You have no rights.  There   
   >>>> is no natural law to base social structures on.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It there were  natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>>> inalienable, derived from human nature and  reason rather than granted   
   >>>> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be no way   
   >>>> to not receive them.  Nobody would die, everybody would have liberty,   
   >>>> and loving spouses.  The truth is you have no right to such things,   
   >>>> and far too many around the world don't have them.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and inalienable, they   
   >>>> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only americans. And   
   >>>> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they can   
   >>>> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.   
   >>>   
   >>> That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.   
   >>>   
   >>> Which is: There are certain principles that work better than others.   
   >>> When human law and society aligns with those principles, the systems   
   >>> created within that structure perform better, allowing greater human   
   >>> flourishing.   
   >>   
   >> what worked last century, may not work this century, and will not work   
   >> next century   
   >>   
   >>  > the "law" can change when as technology unfolds   
   >>  >   
   >>  > #god   
   >>   
   >   
   >That's not how universal principles work.   
   >   
   >Things like:   
   >- Don't steal   
   >- Don't initiate harm to or murder other people   
   >- Don't deliberately speak untruth   
   >- Take responsibility for your actions   
   >- Don't envy or promote resentment for what others have   
      
   Christian principles.  Not universal.  Although it might seem like   
   that to a true believer.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
   <<>> to <<>>   
   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)