XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 2/13/26 10:06 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   > On 2/13/2026 1:12 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/12/26 8:30 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>> On 2/11/2026 3:32 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/11/26 9:46 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/10/2026 11:53 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> just because we are generations from a fully voluntary society,   
   >>>>>> does not mean we cannot, or need not, make progressive steps today   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Anarchism is about a stateless system without a *coercive*   
   >>>>> hierarchy or authority. You absolutely can have binding agreements   
   >>>>> under such a system if a mechanism is freely agreed upon to enforce   
   >>>>> them.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> if u change ur will in regards to their enforcement...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> then enforcing them takes acts of authority. prior agreement does   
   >>>> not justify authority in anarchism because anarchism is *without   
   >>>> authority*   
   >>>>   
   >>>> you find coercively holding people to their prior agreement as   
   >>>> natural because ur just a statist bro   
   >>>>   
   >>>> just pick a different word, anarcho-capitalism is a literally oxymoron   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> We have voluntary non-coercive authorities today, like the church for   
   >>>>   
   >>>> even the church threatens excommunication, so physically banning   
   >>>> from participation if the crime is heavy enough   
   >>>>   
   >>>> anarchism can have no such mechanism because it takes authority to   
   >>>> enforce it   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> one example. There's no reason why that shouldn't continue and even   
   >>>>> expand into structures that include agreed-to arbitration to settle   
   >>>>> conflicts when they arise.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There are plenty of potential enforcement mechanisms for breaking   
   >>>>> an agreement that would not require any sort of state structures or   
   >>>>> the physical coercion, that would operate on a strictly voluntary   
   >>>>> basis.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> For one simple example, if the twenty-million people who are a part   
   >>>>> of my voluntary trade group find out that you didn't live up to our   
   >>>>> agreement, you'd find it very difficult to do business with any of   
   >>>>> them and likely any of the other groups who are in agreement with us.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> why do u need to do business with others if u can just take what you   
   >>>> need??? lol   
   >>>>   
   >>>> again, ur just such a statist u can't even imagine a world without   
   >>>> authority ensuring order   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The idea is a voluntary society that's based on the non-aggression   
   >>>>> principle, free markets, and self-ownership.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Such a system would not result in people being deprived of basic   
   >>>>> necessities to live, because human beings are compassionate and do   
   >>>>> in fact care about other human beings. You can see this happening   
   >>>>> today all around you.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> at a superficial level if even   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Even in nations that oppose other nations, people will voluntarily   
   >>>>> donate and help those other people when it's not prohibited by law.   
   >>>>> Sometimes even when it is.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> A society without leaders is mob rule.   
   >>   
   >> anarchy can have leaders   
   >>   
   >> they just can't lead thru coercion, whether under "voluntary" contract   
   >> or otherwise   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Just come out and say it Nick, you're an anarcho-communist.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> no, i'm just an anarchist. i have a lot in common with communists, and   
   >> empathize with them to a large degree...   
   >>   
   >> but i see the progression to the goal in a totally different light and   
   >> am incredibly skeptical of any dictatorship of the proletariat   
   >> nonsense, especially given the shitshow that was 20th century socialism   
   >>   
   >> u on the hand are just a libertarian capitalist   
   >   
   > Agreed. Free markets and free people.   
      
   ironically nothing is free in those markets   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >> anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron. doesn't exist, and will never exist   
   >   
   > Come on man, it's got an entry on wikipedia.   
   >   
      
   because this society is filled with fucking morons who couldn't tell   
   their heads from their assholes when it comes to philosophical coherency   
      
   anarcho-capitalism is a literal oxymoron   
      
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