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On 2/13/26 9:59 AM, Tara wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2026 at 12:50:06 PM EST, "Noah Sombrero" wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 12:14:08 -0500, Wilson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/13/2026 12:53 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 2/12/26 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose
>>>>>> certain situations on you, which they still might.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But as far as the universe is concerned. You have no rights. There
>>>>>> is no natural law to base social structures on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It there were natural laws that are inherent, universal, and
>>>>>> inalienable, derived from human nature and reason rather than granted
>>>>>> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be no way
>>>>>> to not receive them. Nobody would die, everybody would have liberty,
>>>>>> and loving spouses. The truth is you have no right to such things,
>>>>>> and far too many around the world don't have them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and inalienable, they
>>>>>> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only americans. And
>>>>>> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they can
>>>>>> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is: There are certain principles that work better than others.
>>>>> When human law and society aligns with those principles, the systems
>>>>> created within that structure perform better, allowing greater human
>>>>> flourishing.
>>>>
>>>> what worked last century, may not work this century, and will not work
>>>> next century
>>>>
>>>>> the "law" can change when as technology unfolds
>>>>>
>>>>> #god
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's not how universal principles work.
>>>
>>> Things like:
>>> - Don't steal
>>> - Don't initiate harm to or murder other people
>>> - Don't deliberately speak untruth
>>> - Take responsibility for your actions
>>> - Don't envy or promote resentment for what others have
>>
>> Christian principles. Not universal. Although it might seem like
>> that to a true believer.
>
> "If you were suddenly plucked from your life and sent back in time to live
> with people in Indonesia about 15,000 years ago (or even Ethiopia 150,000
> years ago), you would be able to figure out what is going on. The basic
social
> roles, responsibilities, and civil rules would seem somewhat familiar to you,
> and you'd fit in pretty fast. How is that possible?
>
> Cultural anthropologists have long recognized how all human societies have
> similar basic norms of moral conduct. Marc Hauser, professor of evolutionary
> biology at Harvard University, has just published a paper about additional
> studies showing that people’s moral intuitions do not vary much across
> different religions all around the world. From an evolutionary perspective,
> that means that human morality is very old — old enough to pre-date any
> religion that exists today. Furthermore, basic morality is highly resistant
to
> religious influence — most people easily reject religious rules that
violate
> their basic moral intuitions. Rather, religions all tend to confirm and
> support human morality, because that essential morality sustains our schemes
> of social cooperation."
>
> https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/morality_evolved_first_long_
efore_religion/#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20suddenly%20plucked,vio
ate%20their%20basic%20moral%20intuitions.
so you gunna take back that nonsense you said about canadians and
americans being "wildly" different???
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