XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 2/13/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   > On 2/13/2026 12:57 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/13/26 9:14 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>> On 2/13/2026 12:53 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/12/26 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose   
   >>>>>> certain situations on you, which they still might.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But as far as the universe is concerned.  You have no rights.  There   
   >>>>>> is no natural law to base social structures on.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It there were  natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>>>>> inalienable, derived from human nature and  reason rather than   
   >>>>>> granted   
   >>>>>> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be no way   
   >>>>>> to not receive them.  Nobody would die, everybody would have liberty,   
   >>>>>> and loving spouses.  The truth is you have no right to such things,   
   >>>>>> and far too many around the world don't have them.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and inalienable,   
   >>>>>> they   
   >>>>>> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only americans.   
   >>>>>> And   
   >>>>>> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they can   
   >>>>>> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Which is: There are certain principles that work better than   
   >>>>> others. When human law and society aligns with those principles,   
   >>>>> the systems created within that structure perform better, allowing   
   >>>>> greater human flourishing.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> what worked last century, may not work this century, and will not   
   >>>> work next century   
   >>>>   
   >>>>  > the "law" can change when as technology unfolds   
   >>>>  >   
   >>>>  > #god   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> That's not how universal principles work.   
   >>>   
   >>> Things like:   
   >>> - Don't steal   
   >>   
   >>    > property *is* theft   
   >>    >   
   >>    > #god   
   >   
   > I think you meant "taxes".   
      
   well that's just govt making your property, their property ...   
      
   so yeah still property   
      
   and therefore still theft 🤷🤷🤷   
      
   😇   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>> - Don't initiate harm to or murder other people   
   >>> - Don't deliberately speak untruth   
   >>> - Take responsibility for your actions   
   >>> - Don't envy or promote resentment for what others have   
   >>   
   >   
      
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