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   On 2/13/26 1:19 PM, Tara wrote:   
   > On Feb 13, 2026 at 2:51:48 PM EST, "dart200"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/13/26 9:59 AM, Tara wrote:   
   >>> On Feb 13, 2026 at 12:50:06 PM EST, "Noah Sombrero"    
   wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 12:14:08 -0500, Wilson    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/13/2026 12:53 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/12/26 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose   
   >>>>>>>> certain situations on you, which they still might.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But as far as the universe is concerned.  You have no rights.  There   
   >>>>>>>> is no natural law to base social structures on.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It there were  natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>>>>>>> inalienable, derived from human nature and  reason rather than granted   
   >>>>>>>> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be no way   
   >>>>>>>> to not receive them.  Nobody would die, everybody would have liberty,   
   >>>>>>>> and loving spouses.  The truth is you have no right to such things,   
   >>>>>>>> and far too many around the world don't have them.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and inalienable, they   
   >>>>>>>> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only americans. And   
   >>>>>>>> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they can   
   >>>>>>>> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Which is: There are certain principles that work better than others.   
   >>>>>>> When human law and society aligns with those principles, the systems   
   >>>>>>> created within that structure perform better, allowing greater human   
   >>>>>>> flourishing.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> what worked last century, may not work this century, and will not work   
   >>>>>> next century   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> the "law" can change when as technology unfolds   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> #god   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That's not how universal principles work.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Things like:   
   >>>>> - Don't steal   
   >>>>> - Don't initiate harm to or murder other people   
   >>>>> - Don't deliberately speak untruth   
   >>>>> - Take responsibility for your actions   
   >>>>> - Don't envy or promote resentment for what others have   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Christian principles.  Not universal.  Although it might seem like   
   >>>> that to a true believer.   
   >>>   
   >>>    "If you were suddenly plucked from your life and sent back in time to   
   live   
   >>> with people in Indonesia about 15,000 years ago (or even Ethiopia 150,000   
   >>> years ago), you would be able to figure out what is going on. The basic   
   social   
   >>> roles, responsibilities, and civil rules would seem somewhat familiar to   
   you,   
   >>> and you'd fit in pretty fast. How is that possible?   
   >>>   
   >>> Cultural anthropologists have long recognized how all human societies have   
   >>> similar basic norms of moral conduct. Marc Hauser, professor of   
   evolutionary   
   >>> biology at Harvard University, has just published a paper about additional   
   >>> studies showing that people’s moral intuitions do not vary much across   
   >>> different religions all around the world. From an evolutionary perspective,   
   >>> that means that human morality is very old — old enough to pre-date any   
   >>> religion that exists today. Furthermore, basic morality is highly   
   resistant to   
   >>> religious influence — most people easily reject religious rules that   
   violate   
   >>> their basic moral intuitions. Rather, religions all tend to confirm and   
   >>> support human morality, because that essential morality sustains our   
   schemes   
   >>> of social cooperation."   
   >>>   
   >>> https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/morality_evolved_first_lon   
   _before_religion/#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20suddenly%20plucked,v   
   olate%20their%20basic%20moral%20intuitions.   
   >>   
   >> so you gunna take back that nonsense you said about canadians and   
   >> americans being "wildly" different???   
   >   
   > Not at all. Canadians and Americans are different. The development and   
   > evolution of culture, means and norms, personality and method are all ways of   
   > expressing the differences of peoples while (I think) maintain the basic   
   > morality underlying all nations and peoples. But I'm not going to explain or   
   > go over that again with you.   
   >   
   > and  'wildly' doesn't seem like something i would say.   
      
   boomers and their retarded nationalisms smh   
      
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