XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/13/2026 11:54 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 2/13/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >> On 2/13/2026 12:57 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/13/26 9:14 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/13/2026 12:53 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/12/26 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose   
   >>>>>>> certain situations on you, which they still might.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But as far as the universe is concerned.  You have no rights.  There   
   >>>>>>> is no natural law to base social structures on.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It there were  natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>>>>>> inalienable, derived from human nature and  reason rather than   
   >>>>>>> granted   
   >>>>>>> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be no   
   >>>>>>> way   
   >>>>>>> to not receive them.  Nobody would die, everybody would have   
   >>>>>>> liberty,   
   >>>>>>> and loving spouses.  The truth is you have no right to such things,   
   >>>>>>> and far too many around the world don't have them.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and inalienable,   
   >>>>>>> they   
   >>>>>>> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only   
   >>>>>>> americans. And   
   >>>>>>> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they can   
   >>>>>>> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Which is: There are certain principles that work better than   
   >>>>>> others. When human law and society aligns with those principles,   
   >>>>>> the systems created within that structure perform better, allowing   
   >>>>>> greater human flourishing.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> what worked last century, may not work this century, and will not   
   >>>>> work next century   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>  > the "law" can change when as technology unfolds   
   >>>>>  >   
   >>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's not how universal principles work.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Things like:   
   >>>> - Don't steal   
   >>>   
   >>>    > property *is* theft   
   >>>    >   
   >>>    > #god   
   >>   
   >> I think you meant "taxes".   
   >   
   > well that's just govt making your property, their property ...   
   >   
   > so yeah still property   
   >   
   > and therefore still theft 🤷🤷🤷   
   >   
   > 😇   
   >   
   Don't forget the theft of ideas, Nick. Don't let them steal your mind   
   and property and your means of self-defense.   
      
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