XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On 2/14/2026 2:39 PM, Dude wrote:   
   > On 2/13/2026 11:54 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 2/13/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>> On 2/13/2026 12:57 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/13/26 9:14 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/13/2026 12:53 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/12/26 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not impose   
   >>>>>>>> certain situations on you, which they still might.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But as far as the universe is concerned.  You have no rights.   
   >>>>>>>> There   
   >>>>>>>> is no natural law to base social structures on.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It there were  natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>>>>>>> inalienable, derived from human nature and  reason rather than   
   >>>>>>>> granted   
   >>>>>>>> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be   
   >>>>>>>> no way   
   >>>>>>>> to not receive them.  Nobody would die, everybody would have   
   >>>>>>>> liberty,   
   >>>>>>>> and loving spouses.  The truth is you have no right to such things,   
   >>>>>>>> and far too many around the world don't have them.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>>>>>>> inalienable, they   
   >>>>>>>> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only   
   >>>>>>>> americans. And   
   >>>>>>>> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where they   
   >>>>>>>> can   
   >>>>>>>> have such things, we could not send them back where they came from.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Which is: There are certain principles that work better than   
   >>>>>>> others. When human law and society aligns with those principles,   
   >>>>>>> the systems created within that structure perform better,   
   >>>>>>> allowing greater human flourishing.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> what worked last century, may not work this century, and will not   
   >>>>>> work next century   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>  > the "law" can change when as technology unfolds   
   >>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That's not how universal principles work.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Things like:   
   >>>>> - Don't steal   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    > property *is* theft   
   >>>>    >   
   >>>>    > #god   
   >>>   
   >>> I think you meant "taxes".   
   >>   
   >> well that's just govt making your property, their property ...   
   >>   
   >> so yeah still property   
   >>   
   >> and therefore still theft 🤷🤷🤷   
   >>   
   >> 😇   
   >>   
   > Don't forget the theft of ideas, Nick. Don't let them steal your mind   
   > and property and your means of self-defense.   
      
   Nick's sure "the consensus" will protect him.   
      
   (The French revolution would like to enter the chat).   
      
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