XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 2/14/26 12:00 PM, Wilson wrote:   
   > On 2/14/2026 2:39 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >> On 2/13/2026 11:54 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 2/13/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/13/2026 12:57 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/13/26 9:14 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/13/2026 12:53 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/12/26 9:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/12/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What I mean is that governments can grant that they will not   
   >>>>>>>>> impose   
   >>>>>>>>> certain situations on you, which they still might.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> But as far as the universe is concerned.  You have no rights.   
   >>>>>>>>> There   
   >>>>>>>>> is no natural law to base social structures on.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It there were  natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>>>>>>>> inalienable, derived from human nature and  reason rather than   
   >>>>>>>>> granted   
   >>>>>>>>> by governments, to be inalienable natural laws, there would be   
   >>>>>>>>> no way   
   >>>>>>>>> to not receive them.  Nobody would die, everybody would have   
   >>>>>>>>> liberty,   
   >>>>>>>>> and loving spouses.  The truth is you have no right to such   
   >>>>>>>>> things,   
   >>>>>>>>> and far too many around the world don't have them.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> To be natural laws that are inherent, universal, and   
   >>>>>>>>> inalienable, they   
   >>>>>>>>> would have to apply to everybody in the world, not only   
   >>>>>>>>> americans. And   
   >>>>>>>>> when suffering people come to america seeking a place where   
   >>>>>>>>> they can   
   >>>>>>>>> have such things, we could not send them back where they came   
   >>>>>>>>> from.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> That is a deliberate misstatement of what natural law is all about.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Which is: There are certain principles that work better than   
   >>>>>>>> others. When human law and society aligns with those principles,   
   >>>>>>>> the systems created within that structure perform better,   
   >>>>>>>> allowing greater human flourishing.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> what worked last century, may not work this century, and will not   
   >>>>>>> work next century   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  > the "law" can change when as technology unfolds   
   >>>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>>  > #god   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's not how universal principles work.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Things like:   
   >>>>>> - Don't steal   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    > property *is* theft   
   >>>>>    >   
   >>>>>    > #god   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I think you meant "taxes".   
   >>>   
   >>> well that's just govt making your property, their property ...   
   >>>   
   >>> so yeah still property   
   >>>   
   >>> and therefore still theft 🤷🤷🤷   
   >>>   
   >>> 😇   
   >>>   
   >> Don't forget the theft of ideas, Nick. Don't let them steal your mind   
   >> and property and your means of self-defense.   
      
   i'm a 2A supporter. tho i do think guns prevent enough of a liability   
   that ownership should be tied and regulated by some registered local   
   militia that is associated with the state (not feds)   
      
   >   
   > Nick's sure "the consensus" will protect him.   
   >   
   > (The French revolution would like to enter the chat).   
   >   
      
   the french revolution didn't involve a consensus before, during, or   
   after the revolution   
      
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