From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 09:44:05 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 2/15/2026 7:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 10:05:26 -0500, Wilson    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/14/2026 3:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> It is not necessary to write down and remember universal laws.  We all   
   >>>> already know what they are without christian, islamic or any other   
   >>>> system of ethics to remind us.   
   >>>   
   >>> It's not necessary for one to understand a principle, for it to be true.   
   >>   
   >> Any rabbit would know that.  It is enough to have a shed to hide under   
   >> during a canadian winter.  What use do rabbits have for principles,   
   >> true or not?   
   >>   
   >It's not complicated.   
   > > > It is however necessary for principles to be true.   
   > >   
   >So, the truth comes out! You're a Truther. I get it now. Thanks.   
   > >   
   >> You can't simply go around announcing that libertarianism is a principle   
   and therefore   
   >> true.   
   > >   
   >Who are these "libertarianism" of whom you speak? Apparently, you've   
   >never even seen a photo of The Statue of Liberty. Wait! What?   
      
   The sol poem   
      
   Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,   
   With conquering limbs astride from land to land;   
   Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand   
   A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame   
   Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name   
   Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand   
   Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command   
   The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.   
      
   "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she   
   With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,   
   Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,   
   The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.   
   Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,   
   I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"   
      
   Does that sound like something a libertarian would say?  Give me your   
   tired, your poor?  More like it would be give me my millions in the   
   bank, my mercedes, my right to do whatever I please with my business.   
      
   >America was built on libertarian principles. Liberty is a basic human   
   >right, inalienable truth. There I've said it again. Next.   
      
   On the other hand it took a war to get that liberty for blacks.  Not   
   that the entirely have it even now.  No, I don't see anything   
   universal about that.   
      
   >> It works the other way around.  And if it is true, then   
   >> everybody knows it understood or not.  So invalidating a principle is   
   >> a simple thing.  Validating one, however, is much harder.   
   > >   
   >What are these "universal laws" that don't need to be written down? Laws   
   >and ethics, that everyone already knows, without reading them in grade   
   >school, or up on a stele in downtown Babylon?   
      
   You are right, there are not many, if any.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
   <<>> to <<>>   
   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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