From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/15/2026 11:19 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:37:05 -0500, Noah Sombrero    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 13:25:10 -0500, Wilson    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/15/2026 1:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 09:44:05 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2/15/2026 7:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:>>> You can't simply go around   
   announcing that libertarianism is a   
   >>> principle and therefore   
   >>>>>> true.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Who are these "libertarianism" of whom you speak? Apparently, you've   
   >>>>> never even seen a photo of The Statue of Liberty. Wait! What?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The sol poem   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,   
   >>>> With conquering limbs astride from land to land;   
   >>>> Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand   
   >>>> A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame   
   >>>> Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name   
   >>>> Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand   
   >>>> Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command   
   >>>> The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she   
   >>>> With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,   
   >>>> Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,   
   >>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.   
   >>>> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,   
   >>>> I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"   
   >>> That poem was added to the statue of liberty after it had been erected   
   >>> as part of a private fund-raising effort. It does not define the meaning   
   >>> of the statue, the creators intention for making it, or the reason the   
   >>> nation of France gave it to the US.   
   >>   
   >> Or actually it does.   
   >>   
   >> Let's hear it, why do you think france put that statue on a boat and   
   >> shipped it across the atlantic?   
   >   
   >   
   > Wiki says france's original intent was to honor the freeing of the   
   > slaves and the us surviving the civil war as a nation.   
   >   
   > None of which takes meaning away from the poem that people saw fit to   
   > attach a little later, which must be interpreted as the intent of the   
   > people at the time.   
   >   
   > 'The "huddled masses" refers to the large numbers of immigrants   
   > arriving in the United States in the 1880s, particularly through the   
   > port of New York.[15] Lazarus was an activist and advocate for Jewish   
   > refugees fleeing persecution in Imperial Russia.[16]   
   >   
   > Lazarus refers to the poet Emma Lazarus.   
   .   
   You are really losing most of these debates lately. I can't believe you   
   are still arguing about liberty and human rights after all these years.   
      
   Are you on something? It's just weird.   
      
   Sombrero and Nick seem to be approaching Tang's crashed status. That   
   leaves just three informants still posting cogent replies. What?   
      
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