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|    Julian to All    |
|    In defence of Sir Jim Ratcliffe (1/2)    |
|    16 Feb 26 08:45:33    |
      From: julianlzb87@gmail.com              Far more energy has gone into condemning his phrasing than confronting       the questions he raised                     Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s statement that Britain has been “colonised by       immigrants” has sparked a fierce reaction. From Starmer to Bluesky, to       the Athletic and all the football social media pundits in between, the       co-owner of Manchester United has been bombarded with the same attack       lines repeatedly. He has been called a tax dodging, racist immigrant       hypocrite.              Such an uproar has flared up in such a short space of time because       Ratcliffe is radically different from those who have issued similar       statements before. Ratcliffe is not a political figure: you do not see       billionaires nor football club owners voicing discontent like this. The       pushback has been fierce because Ratcliffe has no political incentive to       say any of this. He isn’t running for office, seeking favour, or chasing       votes — which makes his intervention harder to dismiss. Part of the       backlash, too, reflects an unease that his diagnosis may be accurate.              The remarks came from an initial conversation regarding the economic       challenges Britain faces in general, not solely on immigration. The       snippet that has been so widely shared is merely part of a wider       statement of the economic problems Britain faces; Ratcliffe refers to       the issues of “immigration” and “nine million people” on benefits       simultaneously.              Colonised is a strong opening salvo for a figure such as Ratcliffe, who       is not known for any previous anti-migration stance. This generated       responses of tone policing from his critics – cries that his choice of       words were “disgraceful and deeply divisive” and that “this language and       leadership has no place in English football” from Kick It Out, a notable       “Anti Racism” football pressure group. There was no attempt to argue or       debate: this was no more than tone policing, of “mate mate mate, you       can’t say that mate”. It did not engage with the substantive point. It       was not an argument.              The Prime Minister has pushed for Ratcliffe to apologise. Less than a       year ago, Starmer was referring to Britain as an ”Island of Strangers”;       he has little argument here. Sir Ed Davey has stated that Ratcliffe is       “totally wrong” and is “out of step with British Values”. Once again       this is weak tone policing, not an argument. Regardless, which British       values are being violated in particular? What are British values       precisely meant to mean here?              The fact is that Ratcliffe’s vocabulary choice is nowhere near as       divisive as the impacts of mass migration in the last quarter century.              Mass migration is the most important issue in British political debate.       It has bought sectarianism, Bengali and Palestinian politics swinging       both local council and Parliamentary elections, a deepening of housing       crisis, the rape and murder of British women from taxpayer funded hotels       and programs which bloat the welfare state even further. It is       undeniable mass migration has defined British politics of the 2010s       onwards. It has been much more harmful and divisive than any comment       made by Sir Jim Ratcliffe. His words are nothing compared to the actions       of Deng Chol Majek, or Hedash Kebatu, to name a couple of examples.              Critics have also cried that Ratcliffe is “an immigrant himself, dodging       tax in Monaco”. The difference between Ratcliffe and migration into       Britain is so different they are almost incomparable. In the 2017/18 tax       year Ratcliffe was the fifth highest taxpayer in the country, footing a       bill of £110.5 million. With such an extraordinarily high bill, it is no       wonder that he has since moved to Monaco. Meanwhile, the average salary       of of a migrant entering Britain in 2023 (which has fallen by £10,000       since 2021) was £32,946, according to a report by the Centre for       Migration Control. From this we can estimate a migrant would pay about       £5,000 in income tax. That means it would take over 22,000       (statistically average) migrants to foot the tax bill that Ratcliffe       paid in one year alone. Ratcliffe has been an exceptional cash cow to       the British state. He has been taxed incredible amounts and contributed       more to this country than almost anyone currently living; to call him       hypocritical since he dared to criticise migration and its impact on the       welfare state is simply not fair.              Census data from the ONS in 2021 shows that migrants from four nations –       Somalia, Nigeria, Jamaica and Bangladesh – head over 104,000 social       homes in London alone. With such incredible numbers of subsidised       housing going to foreign born nationals, it is absolutely correct to       state that mass migration is costing the British economy a fortune. The       same census states that over 70% of Somali born households are in social       housing in England and Wales, whilst also being of lowest contributors       to income tax in the nation – paying well under the £5,000 stated per       head previously. The increase and sheer scale of benefit reliance for       many immigrants in Britain is not sustainable, and it is a problem that       is right to be addressed.              Perhaps the most nonsensical argument presented by some is that as       co-owner of Manchester United he employs a significant number of       immigrant players. Bruno Fernandes is not living in social housing in       Wythenshawe. Benjamin Sesko is not in a single bed council flat in       Hulme. When he arrived in Manchester last year, the first thing Senne       Lammens did was not register for Universal Credit. Not a single foreign       player is a drain on the state. They are, as elite athletes in the most       lucrative league in the world, very clearly exceptions to the norm of       British migration. The difference between Bruno Fernandes, who earns a       reported £300,000 a week, and the over 40% of Bangladeshi immigrants who       are economically inactive should really not need spelling out. We are       referring to just 17 foreign senior team players who all earn more in a       week than the average migrant – or Brit – will earn in a year. It is       ludicrous to even attempt to compare the two. Regardless, employing or       working with immigrants does not mean you waive your right to criticise       the state of affairs in Britain. As an Englishman, Sir Jim Ratcliffe has       a given and inalienable right to comment on the affairs of his country.              Ratcliffe’s critics have entirely focused on his choice of the word       “colonised”, and how they consider it inflammatory. This choice of       phrase was not entirely accurate or intentional by Ratcliffe – proved by       the fact he issued an apology over his “choice of language”, rather than       the substance and argument behind his critique of the broader economic              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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