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On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 10:42:33 -0500, Wilson
wrote:
>On 2/16/2026 10:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 09:48:30 -0500, Wilson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/15/2026 4:29 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>> On Feb 15, 2026 at 4:25:11?PM EST, "Noah Sombrero" wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 20:22:59 -0000 (UTC), Tara
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2026 at 2:37:22?PM EST, "Noah Sombrero"
wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 19:05:01 -0000 (UTC), Tara
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I fail to understand the denial that when you bring men from a deeply
>>>>>>>> patriarchal culture where there are high levels of (accepted)
gender-based
>>>>>>>> violence against women and dump them in a society where women and
girls are
>>>>>>>> ?available? that this could and will happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Especially india. Common but not accepted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_women_in_India
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might remember that in canada within the past 10 years or so there
>>>>>>> was one case of an honor killing of a wife and daughters of a
>>>>>>> pakistani immigrant family. The father in that case will likely not
>>>>>>> ever get out of canadian prison. He thought they were straying from
>>>>>>> sharia law and so bringing dishonor on him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fact that there has been one such case has not meant that there
>>>>>>> have been multitudes in the minds of canadians. It did encourage an
>>>>>>> awareness that people from other cultures need to become aware of
>>>>>>> canadian values when they come here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We haven't had to deal with anything like the scope they've had happen
in the
>>>>>> UK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking julian's article at face value then:
>>>>>
>>>>> The indians and pakistanis that come here must be quite similar to
>>>>> those that go to uk. It cannot be simply a matter of culture or race
>>>>> or of hormonal problems.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know
>>>
>>> It could be the attitude of the people and the police that make a
>>> difference.
>>
>> Agreed. Pervasive criminality is a symptom of a sick society.
>>
>>> If society turns a blind eye to wrongdoing and does not discourage it,
>>> it is effectively encouraged.
>>
>> This is the opposite of the above. I don't see any blind eyes up
>> here. I see absence of accused indian/pakistani inherent behaviors
>> that manifest elsewhere.
>
>Again you pretend to not understand what I am saying.
>
>Canada does not have the problems of England because they have not
>turned a blind eye to them and enforces the law. Pervasive criminality
>grows out of not doing that.
And it has nothing to do with being tolerant as tara says?
You say criminality flourishes when laws are not enforced. I say
criminality is a response to how people are treated.
There has been no flood of indian/pakistani criminal behavior to
respond to. Although it is very likely that canadian prisons have
populations of such people proportional to their presence in society.
One thing that gets reported from time to time is that blacks are
highly overpresent in us prisons proportional to their presence in
society. I would observe that fact does not seem to be dampening
black criminality, otherwise black populations would be decreasing in
prison.
I have no doubt you want to put the blame for that on the inherent
nature of black people. Right?
One thing that a person might notice about prison, is that criminals
plan to get away with it. So the prospect of prison is not going to
be a big deterrent.
I fundamentally disagree with many things you believe even if it seems
to you that you do not believe such things. That does not mean I use
dishonest tactics in debating with you. It means I do not accept what
you say no matter how many times you say it.
--
Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
Don't get political with me young man
or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
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Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
dares: Ned
does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away
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