From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On 2/16/2026 10:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 09:48:30 -0500, Wilson    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/15/2026 4:29 PM, Tara wrote:   
   >>> On Feb 15, 2026 at 4:25:11?PM EST, "Noah Sombrero"  wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 20:22:59 -0000 (UTC), Tara    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>> On Feb 15, 2026 at 2:37:22?PM EST, "Noah Sombrero"  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 19:05:01 -0000 (UTC), Tara    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I fail to understand the denial that when you bring men from a deeply   
   >>>>>>> patriarchal culture where there are high levels of (accepted)   
   gender-based   
   >>>>>>> violence against women and dump them in a society where women and   
   girls are   
   >>>>>>> ?available?  that this could and will happen.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Especially india.  Common but not accepted.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_women_in_India   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You might remember that in canada within the past 10 years or so there   
   >>>>>> was one case of an honor killing of a wife and daughters of a   
   >>>>>> pakistani immigrant family.  The father in that case will likely not   
   >>>>>> ever get out of canadian prison.  He thought they were straying from   
   >>>>>> sharia law and so bringing dishonor on him.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The fact that there has been one such case has not meant that there   
   >>>>>> have been multitudes in the minds of canadians.  It did encourage an   
   >>>>>> awareness that people from other cultures need to become aware of   
   >>>>>> canadian values when they come here.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> We haven't had to deal with anything like the scope they've had happen   
   in the   
   >>>>> UK.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Taking julian's article at face value then:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The indians and pakistanis that come here must be quite similar to   
   >>>> those that go to uk.  It cannot be simply a matter of culture or race   
   >>>> or of hormonal problems.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't know   
   >>   
   >> It could be the attitude of the people and the police that make a   
   >> difference.   
   >   
   > Agreed.  Pervasive criminality is a symptom of a sick society.   
   >   
   >> If society turns a blind eye to wrongdoing and does not discourage it,   
   >> it is effectively encouraged.   
   >   
   > This is the opposite of the above.  I don't see any blind eyes up   
   > here.  I see absence of accused indian/pakistani inherent behaviors   
   > that manifest elsewhere.   
      
   Again you pretend to not understand what I am saying.   
      
   Canada does not have the problems of England because they have not   
   turned a blind eye to them and enforces the law. Pervasive criminality   
   grows out of not doing that.   
      
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