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On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 10:36:38 -0800, Dude wrote:
>On 2/20/2026 7:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:03:37 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/20/2026 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 12:50:07 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/20/2026 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 12:21:59 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 7:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 18:47:55 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 15:01:22 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 2:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:09:47 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 1:44 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 13:38:57 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 12:43 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 12:39:03 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 7:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 13:35:08 +0000, Julian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a union thug and his cabal of communist academics have
awoken a sleeping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant: behold, your first look at the billionaire
counterattack in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war for California’s future
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There you have it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Key words: Economic Impact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened to the labor movement?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure you've thought this through.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are now thugs and a cabal of communist academics.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Critics, argue it could negatively impact working people and
that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top 1% already pay nearly half of the state's income taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And so it is that the labor movement has become thugs and a
cabal of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communist academics. Nah, you can't fool me with that shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's because you have not thought this through. Otherwise,
you would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have posted your arguments, pro or con, to this list, instead
of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infantile emotional outbursts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah, I simply reject any premise that ends up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> labor movement has become thugs and a cabal of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communist academics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, you've not read any California labor union history,
or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Teamsters were often labeled "thugs" and "commies"
due to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of violent, coercive strike tactics, deeply ingrained
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The union used intimidation, engaged in mafia-related corruption
notably
>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Jimmy Hoffa. Remember him?s.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, he disappeared something like 65 years ago. Time to give
labor
>>>>>>>>>>>> unions a break.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For the record, I am anti-union and support your right to work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right to work. Another mis-naming of something to hide what it is
>>>>>>>>>> really about.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have a right to work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me be clear: People have individual freedom to work by preventing
>>>>>>>>> forced association with unions or collecting mandatory dues from
>>>>>>>>> workers. You have a right to work without being forced to pay union
dues
>>>>>>>>> and/or join a union in order to work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Total shapeshifter. Instead of my right to work, this is really about
>>>>>>>> employers right to bust unions. Which is where we are right now. Some
>>>>>>>> people with special skills have unions. The rest of us nothing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me be clear: Employers have the inherent right to bust any union
>>>>>>> conspiracy that is taking away the right of workers to work. Tear them
up!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> U.S. states with right-to-work laws:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As of May 2024, the following 26 states have right-to-work laws. - Wiki
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shapeshifter.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Let me be clear: You have obviously not thought this through.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have the right to work without discrimination. The Union does not
>>>>> have the right to charge mandatory dues to give to political parties if
>>>>> you refuse to join the union in order to work.
>>>>
>>>> That is your opinion.
>>>>
>>> Just follow the law.
>>
>> Simply follow your conscience if you have one.
>>
>>>> My opinion is that employers do not have the right to bust unions.
>>>>
>>> The Right-to-work (RTW) laws in the U.S. are state-level regulations.
>>>
>>> They were authorized by the 1947 federal Taft-Hartley Act.
>>
>> None of which makes such laws the right thing to do.
>>
>>> It is illegal to prohibit unions from requiring employees to pay dues or
>>> fees as a condition of employment.
>>>>
>>>> Even though they do that to whatever extent they can manage.>
>>> The question is, why do some people not want unions?
>>
>> No telling why some people want the things they want.
>>
>So, you don't have all the answers.
None of which makes such laws the right thing to do.
--
Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
Don't get political with me young man
or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
<<>> to <<>>
Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
dares: Ned
does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away
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