From: punditster@gmail.com
On 2/21/2026 11:14 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 10:36:38 -0800, Dude wrote:
>
>> On 2/20/2026 7:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:03:37 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/20/2026 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 12:50:07 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/20/2026 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 12:21:59 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 7:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 18:47:55 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 15:01:22 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 2:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:09:47 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 1:44 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 13:38:57 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 12:43 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 12:39:03 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 7:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 13:35:08 +0000, Julian <
ulianlzb87@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a union thug and his cabal of communist academics have
awoken a sleeping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant: behold, your first look at the billionaire
counterattack in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war for California’s future
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There you have it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Key words: Economic Impact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened to the labor movement?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure you've thought this through.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are now thugs and a cabal of communist academics.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Critics, argue it could negatively impact working people
and that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top 1% already pay nearly half of the state's income taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And so it is that the labor movement has become thugs and a
cabal of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communist academics. Nah, you can't fool me with that shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's because you have not thought this through. Otherwise,
you would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have posted your arguments, pro or con, to this list, instead
of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infantile emotional outbursts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah, I simply reject any premise that ends up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> labor movement has become thugs and a cabal of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communist academics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, you've not read any California labor union history,
or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Teamsters were often labeled "thugs" and "commies"
due to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of violent, coercive strike tactics, deeply
ingrained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The union used intimidation, engaged in mafia-related
corruption notably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Jimmy Hoffa. Remember him?s.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, he disappeared something like 65 years ago. Time to give
labor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unions a break.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the record, I am anti-union and support your right to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Right to work. Another mis-naming of something to hide what it is
>>>>>>>>>>> really about.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have a right to work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let me be clear: People have individual freedom to work by
preventing
>>>>>>>>>> forced association with unions or collecting mandatory dues from
>>>>>>>>>> workers. You have a right to work without being forced to pay union
dues
>>>>>>>>>> and/or join a union in order to work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Total shapeshifter. Instead of my right to work, this is really
about
>>>>>>>>> employers right to bust unions. Which is where we are right now.
Some
>>>>>>>>> people with special skills have unions. The rest of us nothing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me be clear: Employers have the inherent right to bust any union
>>>>>>>> conspiracy that is taking away the right of workers to work. Tear
them up!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> U.S. states with right-to-work laws:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As of May 2024, the following 26 states have right-to-work laws. -
Wiki
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shapeshifter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me be clear: You have obviously not thought this through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have the right to work without discrimination. The Union does not
>>>>>> have the right to charge mandatory dues to give to political parties if
>>>>>> you refuse to join the union in order to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is your opinion.
>>>>>
>>>> Just follow the law.
>>>
>>> Simply follow your conscience if you have one.
>>>
>>>>> My opinion is that employers do not have the right to bust unions.
>>>>>
>>>> The Right-to-work (RTW) laws in the U.S. are state-level regulations.
>>>>
>>>> They were authorized by the 1947 federal Taft-Hartley Act.
>>>
>>> None of which makes such laws the right thing to do.
>>>
>>>> It is illegal to prohibit unions from requiring employees to pay dues or
>>>> fees as a condition of employment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even though they do that to whatever extent they can manage.>
>>>> The question is, why do some people not want unions?
>>>
>>> No telling why some people want the things they want.
>>>
>> So, you don't have all the answers.
>
> None of which makes such laws the right thing to do.
>
The federal law says states have the right to regulate local laws in
order to prevent unions from screwing workers out of money.
You can't force workers to join the union; you can't make workers pay
union dues in order to work. You are free to join a union if you want
to, but you can't make that the criteria for hiring workers.
As a worker, you cannot be forced to contribute to political parties
against your will by being forced into payroll deductions.
You have a right to work.
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