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On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 17:23:38 -0800, Dude wrote:
>On 2/21/2026 11:14 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 10:36:38 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/20/2026 7:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:03:37 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/20/2026 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 12:50:07 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/20/2026 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 12:21:59 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 7:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 18:47:55 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 15:01:22 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 2:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:09:47 -0800, Dude
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 1:44 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 13:38:57 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 12:43 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 12:39:03 -0800, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/2026 7:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 13:35:08 +0000, Julian
julianlzb87@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a union thug and his cabal of communist academics have
awoken a sleeping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant: behold, your first look at the billionaire
counterattack in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war for California’s future
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There you have it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Key words: Economic Impact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened to the labor movement?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure you've thought this through.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are now thugs and a cabal of communist academics.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Critics, argue it could negatively impact working people
and that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top 1% already pay nearly half of the state's income taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And so it is that the labor movement has become thugs and a
cabal of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communist academics. Nah, you can't fool me with that shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's because you have not thought this through. Otherwise,
you would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have posted your arguments, pro or con, to this list,
instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infantile emotional outbursts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah, I simply reject any premise that ends up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> labor movement has become thugs and a cabal of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communist academics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, you've not read any California labor union history,
or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California Teamsters were often labeled "thugs" and "commies"
due to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of violent, coercive strike tactics, deeply
ingrained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The union used intimidation, engaged in mafia-related
corruption notably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under Jimmy Hoffa. Remember him?s.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, he disappeared something like 65 years ago. Time to
give labor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unions a break.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the record, I am anti-union and support your right to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right to work. Another mis-naming of something to hide what it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> really about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You have a right to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let me be clear: People have individual freedom to work by
preventing
>>>>>>>>>>> forced association with unions or collecting mandatory dues from
>>>>>>>>>>> workers. You have a right to work without being forced to pay
union dues
>>>>>>>>>>> and/or join a union in order to work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Total shapeshifter. Instead of my right to work, this is really
about
>>>>>>>>>> employers right to bust unions. Which is where we are right now.
Some
>>>>>>>>>> people with special skills have unions. The rest of us nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me be clear: Employers have the inherent right to bust any union
>>>>>>>>> conspiracy that is taking away the right of workers to work. Tear
them up!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> U.S. states with right-to-work laws:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As of May 2024, the following 26 states have right-to-work laws. -
Wiki
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shapeshifter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me be clear: You have obviously not thought this through.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have the right to work without discrimination. The Union does not
>>>>>>> have the right to charge mandatory dues to give to political parties if
>>>>>>> you refuse to join the union in order to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is your opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just follow the law.
>>>>
>>>> Simply follow your conscience if you have one.
>>>>
>>>>>> My opinion is that employers do not have the right to bust unions.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The Right-to-work (RTW) laws in the U.S. are state-level regulations.
>>>>>
>>>>> They were authorized by the 1947 federal Taft-Hartley Act.
>>>>
>>>> None of which makes such laws the right thing to do.
>>>>
>>>>> It is illegal to prohibit unions from requiring employees to pay dues or
>>>>> fees as a condition of employment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even though they do that to whatever extent they can manage.>
>>>>> The question is, why do some people not want unions?
>>>>
>>>> No telling why some people want the things they want.
>>>>
>>> So, you don't have all the answers.
>>
>> None of which makes such laws the right thing to do.
> >
>The federal law says states have the right to regulate local laws in
>order to prevent unions from screwing workers out of money.
>
>You can't force workers to join the union; you can't make workers pay
>union dues in order to work. You are free to join a union if you want
>to, but you can't make that the criteria for hiring workers.
>
>As a worker, you cannot be forced to contribute to political parties
>against your will by being forced into payroll deductions.
>
>You have a right to work.
You are repeating yourself.
--
Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
Don't get political with me young man
or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
<<>> to <<>>
Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
dares: Ned
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