From: Wilson@nowhere.invalid   
      
   On 2/22/2026 1:41 PM, Julian wrote:   
   > On 22/02/2026 18:39, Wilson wrote:   
   >> On 2/22/2026 1:07 PM, Tara wrote:   
   >>> Wilson  wrote:   
   >>>> On 2/22/2026 10:13 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 14:35:28 -0000 (UTC), Tara    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Feb 22, 2026 at 9:27:27?AM EST, "Tara"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2026 at 9:11:09?AM EST, "Noah Sombrero"   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 09:00:37 +0000, Julian    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2026 05:41, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> what would you consider pristine nature?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Red in tooth and claw.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yeh, and once people have access to it, it no longer is pristine.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Most people - not all.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, best to protect Nature from 'most' people.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It's like those ads you see for hideaway, unknown tourist   
   >>>>> destinations.  After those ads, they aren't anymore, right?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> For instance, there are creatures who do not tolerate the presence of   
   >>>>> humans.  I remember a prof telling us about a population of big horn   
   >>>>> sheep in the sonoran desert.  If there are big horn sheep in an area,   
   >>>>> and you build a road through that area, those sheep will leave.  Not   
   >>>>> to mention whatever disturbance a road makes.  The presence of humans   
   >>>>> alone changes the area.  How to protect it?  Prevent people from going   
   >>>>> there.   
   >>>> When I was in Glacier National Park 30 years ago walking a trail near   
   >>>> Logan Pass, a Bighorn allowed me to walk right up to it. I stopped when   
   >>>> I was about 20 feet away, but it didn't seem at all concerned as I took   
   >>>> a great picture (pre-digital era) of it.   
   >>>   
   >>> They’ve habituated to people due to food and learning that people   
   aren’t   
   >>> threatening. Sheep aren’t predators though, so maybe that has   
   >>> something to   
   >>> do with it. And they’re among the species that can be domesticated.   
   >>   
   >> Exactly, because they don't get hunted in the park. But the funny   
   >> thing is Noah out here claiming that the pics of them standing feet   
   >> away from people are photoshopped.   
   >   
   > The NYT, Wiki and Grauniad, have not published those photos.   
      
   Oh hell, I'm foiled again.   
      
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