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   On 2/24/26 2:28 PM, Dude wrote:   
   > On 2/24/2026 11:45 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 11:21:33 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/24/2026 10:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 13:33:42 -0500, Wilson    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/24/2026 1:19 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2/24/26 10:15 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2/24/2026 12:28 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2/24/2026 8:21 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2/23/26 7:42 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 18:07:05 -0800, Dude   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/23/2026 9:32 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:08:32 -0800, Dude    
   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/22/2026 7:48 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 19:05:05 -0800, Dude   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some legal discussions argued Virginia Giuffre was 17 years   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old, based   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on her birthday, when she worked for Trump at Mar-a-Lago   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resort in 2000.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, all the girls that worked for Epstein on the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> island inside   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pleasure dome were adult paid hooker masseuses.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In which case there would be no need for him to commit   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suicide.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinions in the matter cease to matter.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The question is, what did Epstein know, and when did he   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a coverup to me. Nick implied that Clinton and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Trump are   
   >>>>>>>>>>> pedophiles. Obviously it's a coverup of a sex ring involving   
   >>>>>>>>>>> powerful   
   >>>>>>>>>>> men. Nick seems to agree, but he might accuse you for even   
   >>>>>>>>>>> discussing   
   >>>>>>>>>>> it. You can't make this stuff up.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> What epstein knew has no bearing.  He knew everything.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> wilson and julian are awfully absent from this convo. what   
   >>>>>>>>> #pedolovers   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Obviously you've got a prurient interest in the Epstein files.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It seems to me very likely Epstein was affiliated with US & Israeli   
   >>>>>>> intelligence. And that he passed info to them to compromise   
   >>>>>>> people who   
   >>>>>>> engaged in deviancy and violence against helpless people.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I think this wasn't only about abusing kids, but also about   
   >>>>>>> people who   
   >>>>>>> believe they can transcend humanity and become "god". The sort of   
   >>>>>>> evil   
   >>>>>>> that isn't simply horny and depraved, but also includes some element   
   >>>>>>> of transhumanist utopianism aligned with it along with worship of   
   >>>>>>> destructive forces.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Add in the Hebrew tradition of being gods chosen people and being   
   >>>>>>> above the Goyem. And, although it's not connected to Epstein,   
   >>>>>>> there's   
   >>>>>>> a similar sort of thing with the Muslim tradition of conquest and   
   >>>>>>> submission which IMO was behind the England rape gangs.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> This gets to a pretty dark place but ultimately it's all   
   >>>>>>> connected by   
   >>>>>>> a mindset that allows a person to think other beings aren't   
   >>>>>>> worthy of   
   >>>>>>> empathy and don't deserve compassion.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> so long as that empathy and compassion doesn't trip over ur property   
   >>>>>> rights eh wilson??? ?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Property rights are human rights.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> nonsense.   
   >>>>   
   >>> In Western civilization Article 17 of the 1948 Universal Declaration of   
   >>> Human Rights affirms the right to own property.   
   >>   
   >> Govt granted.  Not god given.   
   >>   
   > These right are natural rights that everyone is born with, up to and   
   > including the invention of government, which carved them into stone so   
   > there was no mistaking the intention.   
   >   
   > Fundamental rights that cannot be surrendered in the social contract.   
   >   
   > Preservation of the natural rights to life, liberty, and property was s   
   > justification for the founding of the American colonies.   
   >   
   > "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created   
   > equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable   
   > rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." -   
   > Thomas Jefferson   
   >  >   
      
   jefferson dropped property probably because it seems a lot of people   
   don't end up with much property, so our society doesn't really grant   
   that as a right   
      
   >   
   >>> You have  an innate right to life, liberty, and security.   
   >>>   
   >>>   Property rights are inherent and natural rights from one's ownership   
   >>> of their own body and labor. These are considered foundational, with   
   >>> property seen as an extension of oneself.   
   >>   
   >> It is possible to see it that way.  But some do not.  Foundational is   
   >> debatable.  As we do here.   
   >   
      
      
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