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   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: We don?t need Islamo-fashion (1/2)   
   06 Mar 26 16:30:30   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 3/6/2026 1:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 12:57:05 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 3/6/2026 11:24 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 19:21:47 -0000 (UTC), Tara  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Noah Sombrero  wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 16:48:31 +0000, Julian    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> When the ghastly Lynda Snell of The Archers ?did? fasting last year at   
   >>>>>> Ramadan to suck up to the new Muslim family in town, I thought this kind   
   >>>>>> of thing had got about as silly as it was possible to be. But reading   
   >>>>>> about what happened last week at London Fashion Week took the   
   >>>>>> gluten-free cake.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And thus it is that people who are not like you are impossibly silly,   
   >>>>> crazy and absently muddy minded.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> How else can people learn to laugh at themselves.   
   >>>   
   >>> Those rabid right wingers?  Never.   
   >>>   
   >> It kind of looks like the right wingers are in favor of human rights and   
   >   
   > Depends on what those right are.   
    >   
   The ones listed in the UN Declaration of Human Rights?   
    >   
    > Right to be ceo running a company that exploits. You bet.>   
   You have the right to fast at Ramadan, or not, Senor. LoL   
      
   "I just so love England, and sausage and fashion!" - Amelia   
    >   
      
   >> the left wingers are going for the Islam sharia. Talk about confused!   
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   >>>>>> Non-Muslims either choosing or being compelled to celebrate Muslim   
   >>>>>> holidays has been going on for some time. Understandably if   
   >>>>>> disagreeably, with its Muslim mayor, London splurges on the celebration   
   >>>>>> of Ramadan, decorating Piccadilly ? the heart of the city ? with 30,000   
   >>>>>> (sustainable) lights. In the unlikely setting of Carinthia, Austria, an   
   >>>>>> ?open iftar? invites all citizens to break the Ramadan fast and eat   
   >>>>>> together ? even if, as non-Muslims, they?haven?t fasted, which seems to   
   >>>>>> be missing the point a bit.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In fact, you could say that Ramadan has become fashionable, with quite a   
   >>>>>> few non-Muslim public figures observing it, often getting around the   
   >>>>>> fact that they generally have no time for religion by adding a   
   >>>>>> ?self-care? spin, banging on about gratitude, self-discipline or ? even   
   >>>>>> worse ? ?solidarity? with Muslim communities. One doesn?t expect   
   >>>>>> rigorous thinking from TikTok influencers but it?s interesting that   
   >>>>>> they?d never dream of doing the same with the poor beleaguered British   
   >>>>>> Jewish community, who have seen anti-Semitic speech and violence rise to   
   >>>>>> unprecedented levels since the Hamas pogrom took place in Israel three   
   >>>>>> years ago. They could always start with the Jewish festival of Purim,   
   >>>>>> when you have to dress up to make yourself look ridiculous ? second   
   >>>>>> nature for many social media show-offs.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Talking of which, it may seem strange that fashion ? by the nature of   
   >>>>>> which everything is loved for a few months and then derided as   
   >>>>>> so-last-week ? is the latest branch of public life to find Ramadan hip.   
   >>>>>> Panted the Guardian excitably: ?British-Yemeni designer Kazna Asker   
   >>>>>> deliberately paused her presentation at sunset to share iftar with the   
   >>>>>> models, who were also fasting, as were the interns and many of the   
   >>>>>> staff? Programming this pause into one of the fashion industry?s most   
   >>>>>> tightly scheduled weeks was deliberate.?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> As a student, Asker was the first to put hijab-clad models on the   
   >>>>>> catwalk in 2022; she says this was inspired by her upbringing in   
   >>>>>> Sheffield and not seeing ?modest fashion? reflected in a ?cool way.?   
   >>>>>> Maybe because it?s simply not very ?cool? to showcase at one?s leisure ?   
   >>>>>> having grown up a free woman in a Western country ? a garment which   
   >>>>>> millions of women the world over are literally forced into?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I do remember gushing features about ?modesty dressing? a few years   
   >>>>>> back, during which the then-editor of Cosmopolitan, Farrah Storr,   
   >>>>>> enthused about the fashion for covering up. She was especially pleased   
   >>>>>> because she felt that she would no longer be expected to get her   
   >>>>>> ?bingo-wings? out when the sun shone. It was around this time that the   
   >>>>>> likes of Emma Watson and Victoria Beckham were seen sporting   
   >>>>>> floor-skimming numbers covering every inch of their bodies; I must say   
   >>>>>> that I cynically saw this, like the clean-eating craze, as a way for   
   >>>>>> stars whose skeletal frames have been savagely dissected on social media   
   >>>>>> to hide from accusations of anorexia.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So perhaps the idea of Islam and the covering-up it demands of women   
   >>>>>> partnering with fashion ? where eating disorders are rife ? isn?t so   
   >>>>>> nutty after all. Or maybe Asker is a high-profile example of those   
   >>>>>> clowns who believe that The Religion Of Peace (in which what men and   
   >>>>>> women are allowed to do is far more binary than in any other belief   
   >>>>>> system) and gender fluidity are natural allies. The Guardian could   
   >>>>>> hardly contain its excitement that ?Asker disrupted traditional gender   
   >>>>>> codes. One female model wore a jambiya ? the Yemeni dagger belt   
   >>>>>> historically reserved for men ? integrated into a structured power   
   >>>>>> suit.? I was taken by the photograph of one of her male models, very   
   >>>>>> pretty, hand on hip, wearing a head-wrap with a huge bunch of flowers   
   >>>>>> attached, like he?d just had his first look at Morrissey on Top of the   
   >>>>>> Pops waving a load of gladioli around. Try walking down the street like   
   >>>>>> that in a Muslim-majority country, mate!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> This kind of thing having its moment because of a combination of   
   >>>>>> cowardly cultural cringe and the ceaseless desire of the fashion   
   >>>>>> industry to find new ways of making women look ludicrous while paying   
   >>>>>> handsomely for it. There?s also the matter of huge amounts of money   
   >>>>>> which women from the filthy rich Gulf states ? forbidden as they are   
   >>>>>> from expressing themselves in any other way ? spend on clothes to be   
   >>>>>> taken into consideration.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> As with the unspeakably stupid Swedish female MPs ? Sweden?s   
   >>>>>> self-declared ?first feminist government in the world? ? who chose to   
   >>>>>> wear the hijab when they visited Iran some years back, the woman-hating   
   >>>>>> imams of mosques worldwide must be wetting themselves with glee that   
   >>>>>> certain sections of free-born Western women are doing their disgusting   
      
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