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   On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 16:30:30 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 3/6/2026 1:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 12:57:05 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 3/6/2026 11:24 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 19:21:47 -0000 (UTC), Tara  wrote:   
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   >>>>> Noah Sombrero  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 16:48:31 +0000, Julian    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> When the ghastly Lynda Snell of The Archers ?did? fasting last year at   
   >>>>>>> Ramadan to suck up to the new Muslim family in town, I thought this   
   kind   
   >>>>>>> of thing had got about as silly as it was possible to be. But reading   
   >>>>>>> about what happened last week at London Fashion Week took the   
   >>>>>>> gluten-free cake.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And thus it is that people who are not like you are impossibly silly,   
   >>>>>> crazy and absently muddy minded.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How else can people learn to laugh at themselves.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Those rabid right wingers?  Never.   
   >>>>   
   >>> It kind of looks like the right wingers are in favor of human rights and   
   >>   
   >> Depends on what those right are.   
   > >   
   >The ones listed in the UN Declaration of Human Rights?   
      
   Not the ones I had in mind.   
      
   > >   
   > > Right to be ceo running a company that exploits. You bet.>   
   >You have the right to fast at Ramadan, or not, Senor. LoL   
      
   You heard me.   
      
   >   
   >"I just so love England, and sausage and fashion!" - Amelia   
   > >   
   >   
   >>> the left wingers are going for the Islam sharia. Talk about confused!   
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   >>>>>>> Non-Muslims either choosing or being compelled to celebrate Muslim   
   >>>>>>> holidays has been going on for some time. Understandably if   
   >>>>>>> disagreeably, with its Muslim mayor, London splurges on the celebration   
   >>>>>>> of Ramadan, decorating Piccadilly ? the heart of the city ? with 30,000   
   >>>>>>> (sustainable) lights. In the unlikely setting of Carinthia, Austria, an   
   >>>>>>> ?open iftar? invites all citizens to break the Ramadan fast and eat   
   >>>>>>> together ? even if, as non-Muslims, they?haven?t fasted, which seems to   
   >>>>>>> be missing the point a bit.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> In fact, you could say that Ramadan has become fashionable, with quite   
   a   
   >>>>>>> few non-Muslim public figures observing it, often getting around the   
   >>>>>>> fact that they generally have no time for religion by adding a   
   >>>>>>> ?self-care? spin, banging on about gratitude, self-discipline or ? even   
   >>>>>>> worse ? ?solidarity? with Muslim communities. One doesn?t expect   
   >>>>>>> rigorous thinking from TikTok influencers but it?s interesting that   
   >>>>>>> they?d never dream of doing the same with the poor beleaguered British   
   >>>>>>> Jewish community, who have seen anti-Semitic speech and violence rise   
   to   
   >>>>>>> unprecedented levels since the Hamas pogrom took place in Israel three   
   >>>>>>> years ago. They could always start with the Jewish festival of Purim,   
   >>>>>>> when you have to dress up to make yourself look ridiculous ? second   
   >>>>>>> nature for many social media show-offs.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Talking of which, it may seem strange that fashion ? by the nature of   
   >>>>>>> which everything is loved for a few months and then derided as   
   >>>>>>> so-last-week ? is the latest branch of public life to find Ramadan hip.   
   >>>>>>> Panted the Guardian excitably: ?British-Yemeni designer Kazna Asker   
   >>>>>>> deliberately paused her presentation at sunset to share iftar with the   
   >>>>>>> models, who were also fasting, as were the interns and many of the   
   >>>>>>> staff? Programming this pause into one of the fashion industry?s most   
   >>>>>>> tightly scheduled weeks was deliberate.?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> As a student, Asker was the first to put hijab-clad models on the   
   >>>>>>> catwalk in 2022; she says this was inspired by her upbringing in   
   >>>>>>> Sheffield and not seeing ?modest fashion? reflected in a ?cool way.?   
   >>>>>>> Maybe because it?s simply not very ?cool? to showcase at one?s leisure   
   ?   
   >>>>>>> having grown up a free woman in a Western country ? a garment which   
   >>>>>>> millions of women the world over are literally forced into?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I do remember gushing features about ?modesty dressing? a few years   
   >>>>>>> back, during which the then-editor of Cosmopolitan, Farrah Storr,   
   >>>>>>> enthused about the fashion for covering up. She was especially pleased   
   >>>>>>> because she felt that she would no longer be expected to get her   
   >>>>>>> ?bingo-wings? out when the sun shone. It was around this time that the   
   >>>>>>> likes of Emma Watson and Victoria Beckham were seen sporting   
   >>>>>>> floor-skimming numbers covering every inch of their bodies; I must say   
   >>>>>>> that I cynically saw this, like the clean-eating craze, as a way for   
   >>>>>>> stars whose skeletal frames have been savagely dissected on social   
   media   
   >>>>>>> to hide from accusations of anorexia.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So perhaps the idea of Islam and the covering-up it demands of women   
   >>>>>>> partnering with fashion ? where eating disorders are rife ? isn?t so   
   >>>>>>> nutty after all. Or maybe Asker is a high-profile example of those   
   >>>>>>> clowns who believe that The Religion Of Peace (in which what men and   
   >>>>>>> women are allowed to do is far more binary than in any other belief   
   >>>>>>> system) and gender fluidity are natural allies. The Guardian could   
   >>>>>>> hardly contain its excitement that ?Asker disrupted traditional gender   
   >>>>>>> codes. One female model wore a jambiya ? the Yemeni dagger belt   
   >>>>>>> historically reserved for men ? integrated into a structured power   
   >>>>>>> suit.? I was taken by the photograph of one of her male models, very   
   >>>>>>> pretty, hand on hip, wearing a head-wrap with a huge bunch of flowers   
   >>>>>>> attached, like he?d just had his first look at Morrissey on Top of the   
   >>>>>>> Pops waving a load of gladioli around. Try walking down the street like   
   >>>>>>> that in a Muslim-majority country, mate!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> This kind of thing having its moment because of a combination of   
   >>>>>>> cowardly cultural cringe and the ceaseless desire of the fashion   
   >>>>>>> industry to find new ways of making women look ludicrous while paying   
   >>>>>>> handsomely for it. There?s also the matter of huge amounts of money   
   >>>>>>> which women from the filthy rich Gulf states ? forbidden as they are   
   >>>>>>> from expressing themselves in any other way ? spend on clothes to be   
   >>>>>>> taken into consideration.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> As with the unspeakably stupid Swedish female MPs ? Sweden?s   
   >>>>>>> self-declared ?first feminist government in the world? ? who chose to   
   >>>>>>> wear the hijab when they visited Iran some years back, the woman-hating   
      
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