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   HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - Paramedics started picking up patients in   
   Lahaina with fire-related injuries a little after 3. p.m. on Aug. 8 — at   
   least 12 hours before the county notified key state leaders people had   
   died in the disaster, HNN Investigates has confirmed.   
      
   The information offers further insight into what was happening behind   
   the fire line the day Lahaina burned — and what emergency officials did   
   or didn’t know as they sought to respond.   
      
   Speedy Bailey, regional director in Hawaii for American Medical   
   Response, says calls for help in Lahaina were nonstop from 4 p.m. until   
   about midnight. “Ambulances were working in and amongst moving flames   
   and high gusts of winds, in extreme danger,” Bailey said.   
      
   For at least nine hours, Maui’s EMS crews repeatedly crossed fire lines   
   to treat the wounded who were unable to escape on their own. “Fire crews   
   and police crews were bringing patients to triage points where   
   ambulances could take patients to Maui Memorial (Medical Center),”   
   Bailey said.   
      
   Maui’s ambulance chief says in addition to the island’s nine ambulances,   
   two more had been placed on standby that day ahead of wind warnings   
   forecast in advance of Hurricane Dora passing south of the state. He   
   says those rigs were mobilized about 3 p.m. on Aug. 8.   
      
   Special Section: Maui Wildfires   
   “I don’t think we’ve ever seen anything like this, to be frank,” Bailey   
   said. “Just the conditions that they had to deal with.” He added that   
   paramedics and EMTs worked in the face of fast-moving flames that   
   changed direction without warning and smoke so thick it blacked out the   
   sun.   
      
   “Communications were challenged. Cell phones down. Radio complications,”   
   he said.   
      
   As for the people being pulled out of the disaster zone, “we saw some   
   burn patients that we don’t see that kind of condition generally. There   
   were multiple times when ambulances were transporting two patients, at   
   least, in an ambulance,” Bailey said.   
      
   He says medics rushed a total 32 people to the hospital with   
   fire-related injuries. Eight were subsequently airlifted to Oahu and at   
   least one has died.   
      
   Officials at Maui Memorial Medical Center told Hawaii News Now that Maui   
   County’s Emergency Management Agency is in charge of coordinating   
   communication between agencies.   
      
   “When one responding agency learns of a catastrophic event, it is the   
   protocol to notify MEMA in order to activate any other needed agencies   
   and resources to respond,” the hospital said.   
      
   When asked who made that notification, a spokesperson responded that the   
   hospital’s emergency management team “had already been in constant   
   communication with the county since earlier that morning about the   
   upcountry fire situation.”   
      
   The disconnect appears to have been between the county and the state.   
      
   HNN Investigates has confirmed that critical information about injuries   
   and fatalities in the disaster didn’t make it to the director of the   
   state’s emergency management agency until the day after Lahaina was   
   leveled. “I thought everyone had gotten out safely. It wasn’t until   
   probably the next day I started hearing about fatalities,” Maj. Gen.   
   Kenneth Hara told HNN on Aug. 23.   
      
   Meanwhile, the Bissen administration still won’t say who was calling the   
   shots that day while the head of Maui’s emergency Management Agency was   
   off island attending a FEMA conference.   
      
   Looking back, Bailey says he commends his ambulance crews, along with   
   the other first responders who risked their lives. He says they did   
   everything they could. “They don’t like to be called heroes,” Bailey   
   said. “But they were heroic. And they did awesome, amazing work.”   
      
   While none of the ambulance crews working were hurt on-duty, one of   
   their team members is still among the missing. Several others lost their   
   homes.   
      
   https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/08/29/first-wildfire-victims-were-load   
   ed-into-ambulances-12-hours-before-state-was-notified-casualties/   
      
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