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   XPost: soc.culture.african.american   
   From: rkoch@banmlkday.com   
      
   Many of our best people were really bad people.   
      
   But I read a lot, so I already knew this, and it’s actually not   
   the worst of Gandhi’s actions. Interestingly enough, many of our   
   great leaders and icons were massively flawed individuals.   
   Martin Luther King Jr. was a documented adulterer and plagiarist   
   (he plagiarized some significant portion of his major college   
   work), and Abraham Lincoln himself was a clear racist:   
      
   Here’s him arguing for black rights in a debate with Douglas   
   Charleston (who I guess wasn’t as hippie liberal as this):   
      
   I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of   
   bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of   
   the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in   
   favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying   
   them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I   
   will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference   
   between the white and black races which I believe will forever   
   forbid the two races living together on terms of social and   
   political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while   
   they do remain together there must be the position of superior   
   and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of   
   having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say   
   upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man   
   is to have the superior position the negro should be denied   
   everything.   
      
   Then there’s the words of my favorite statesmen of all   
   times–Thomas Jefferson:   
      
   …all men are created equal…   
      
   Well, he didn’t use the word men because that was an accepted   
   proxy for humankind at the time. He used it because it didn’t   
   apply to what were considered non-men of the time, e.g. blacks,   
   women, and non-christians. In other words, when he said “men”,   
   he really meant Christian, white men.   
      
   https://danielmiessler.com/blog/gandhi-hated-black-people-and-   
   mlk-was-a-plagiarist/   
                 
      
      
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