XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.global-warming, alt.politics   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
     26xh.0712 wrote:   
      
   >    Well, Musk IS a business guy after all ...   
      
   No. He makes his money breaking the law. That makes him a   
   criminal, not a businessman.   
      
   People have honestly gone to prison for some of his stunts,   
   which amount to consumer and investor fraud...   
      
   He spent billions on a worthless company owned by family, all   
   the cash stolen from Tesla investors...   
      
   >    Dunno if he's literally breaking (US) law by   
   >    upselling his company   
      
   Fake news. Fake claims. His claim that he secured the financing   
   and was taking Tesla private -- a proven lie told to push up   
   the stock prices -- is something you would have gone to prison   
   for.   
      
   >    In any case, the new Chinese models ARE a big   
   >    problem. The Euros have already used protectionist   
   >    measures and the USA likely will too. Nobody seems   
   >    to know how GOOD the Chinese brands are - fit/finish/   
   >    power/range/servicibility - yet ... they MAY be   
   >    duds and sales would collapse. All I can say is   
   >    that they "LOOK ok", but that says little.   
      
   Tesla's models don't look good. They have wide gaps, misaligned   
   doors and fenders, rust, lots of electronic problems...   
      
   >> It's going to be the biggest bankruptcy in American history,   
   >> throwing America and perhaps the global markets into a crisis.   
   >   
   >    Well, it would be hardly the only auto-maker that   
   >    fell on bad times.   
      
      
   It would erase $770 billion from the economy, in an instant. It   
   would eclipse the biggest bankruptcy in American history. And   
   it's overdue to happen. Musk seems bent on making it happen.   
      
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_automobile_manuf   
   cturers_of_the_United_States   
   >   
   >    They had to list them in separate alphabetical sections ...   
      
   Which one are you pretending to have removed as much wealth   
   from the economy?   
      
   You can't be this stupid. You have to be either a troll or   
   an astroturfer.   
      
   >> You do know, of course, that he stole more than enough money   
   >> from shareholders and lenders to buy Ford Motor Company   
   >> outright -- 100% of their shares.   
   >   
   >    "Stole" hmmm ?   
      
   Yes. Hence the shareholder lawsuit.   
      
   >    Musk is DIVERSE.   
      
   He's a criminal and he's incredibly DANGEROUS.   
      
   >  He might have bought out Ford or   
   >    Chrysler but he put the cash into being a rocket-man   
   >    and sat-internet tycoon.   
      
   He's still stealing more than enough to buy Chrysler, even as   
   Tesla is sliding into the toilet.   
      
      
      
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