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   From: yourdime@outlook.com   
      
   In the wake of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals decision this week to   
   uphold a lower court ruling that declared California's background check   
   scheme for ammunition purchases is unconstitutional, many ammo makers and   
   online retailers have announced that they're once again shipping to   
   California customers... at least for now.   
      
   Though the Ninth Circuit panel agreed that the permanent injunction   
   originally imposed by U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez was the right   
   thing to do,  California Attorney General Rob Bonta still has the option   
   of seeking a stay on the decision and an en banc review by a broader panel   
   of Ninth Circuit judges. If that's denied, he could ask the Supreme Court   
   to keep the law in effect during the appeals process.   
      
   When Benitez ruled that California's ban on "large capacity" magazines was   
   unconstitutional a few years ago and declined to stay his decision, there   
   was about a week-long period where those items were once again available   
   for sale in the state before the Ninth Circuit granted Bonta's request for   
   a stay. During that time period, it's estimate that about 1 million   
   magazines were sold to Golden State residents.   
      
   I don't know if online orders of popular and exotic calibers are going to   
   increase that dramatically, but there are plenty of companies who are   
   offering up their wares to California customers.   
      
      
      
      
   This may very well change in the coming days, though. In fact, the   
   companies that have resumed shipping directly to California customers may   
   be jumping the gun a bit, at least according to CRPA head Chuck Michel.   
      
      
   Would California Attorney General Rob Bonta really prosecute companies and   
   customers who are shipping and purchasing ammunition online at the moment?   
   Michel said in a followup post that companies like Midway must feel lucky,   
   because CalDOJ could go after them.   
      
   DOJ's position without a doubt is that the injunction issued by the trial   
   court has not gone back into effect and is still blocked.   
      
   That's why it's critically important that the panel now remove the stay on   
   Benitez's injunction and allow for this lawful commerce to once again flow   
   unimpeded by the state's unconstitutional laws regarding ammunition   
   purchases.   
      
   Even if the panel does take that step, California residents also need to   
   make sure there aren't any local laws prohibiting them from buying   
   ammunition online and having it shipped directly to their home. Michel   
   says he anticipates a number of anti-gun jurisdictions will be inclined to   
   pass a local ordinance.   
      
   Michel notes that if the law requiring background checks on every   
   ammunition purchase is unconstitutional statewide, it's also   
   unconstitutional at the local level. But the longtime 2A litigator also   
   noted that, "Bloomberg Law lawyers will try to make some distinction in   
   what the law does so it skirts whatever ruling strikes down the state   
   law."   
      
   If California isn't allowed to conduct background checks on ammunition   
   sales, I don't know how localities could demand those checks take place.   
   There would literally be no way to comply with an ordinance like that. I   
   wonder, though, it we might not see cities like Los Angeles and San   
   Francisco try to impose the say 10-day waiting period that exists for   
   firearm purchases to ammunition purchases as well. Some anti-gun cities   
   might even try to ration the amount of ammunition that can be purchased at   
   one time or within a 30-day period; similar to California's "1-in-30" law   
   that has also been ruled unconstitutional by the Ninth Circuit Court of   
   Appeals.   
      
   Some of the companies that have announced direct sales to California   
   customers may decide it's better to hold off until there's clarity from   
   the Ninth Circuit, so keep that in mind if you're buying online. I hope   
   this confusion is only temporary, and the panel will clarify things in   
   favor of gun owners as quickly as possible, but for the moment the status   
   of California's ammunition regulations is still very much up in the air.   
      
   https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2025/07/26/going-back-to-cali-many-   
   companies-resume-shipping-ammo-to-golden-state-n1229395   
      
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