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   On  Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:24:38 GMT "Sam Gillett"   
    carved the following into the hard   
   stone of alt.atheism   
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   >"Douglas Berry" wrote ...   
   >>   
   >> Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail   
   >> Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5   
   >> Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011   
   >>   
   >> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the   
   >> source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a   
   >> stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as   
   >> good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein   
   >   
   >I find it strange that an atheist would quote Albert Einstein.   
   >   
   >Albert Einstein believed that God created the universe, and is known to have   
   >said that God is the Supreme Scientist.   
      
   "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious   
   convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not   
   believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have   
   expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called   
   religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the   
   world so far as our science can reveal it." (Albert Einstein, 1954)   
   From Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh   
   Hoffman, Princeton University Press   
      
   "Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes   
   place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for   
   the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will   
   hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a   
   prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being." (Albert   
   Einstein, 1936) Responding to a child who wrote and asked if   
   scientists pray. Source: Albert Einstein: The Human Side, Edited by   
   Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffmann   
      
   "A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy,   
   education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary.   
   Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear   
   of punishment and hope of reward after death." (Albert Einstein,   
   Religion and Science, New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930   
      
   "I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or   
   has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I   
   nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his   
   physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish   
   such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life   
   and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the   
   existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a   
   portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in   
   nature." (Albert Einstein, The World as I See It)   
      
   "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his   
   creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short,   
   who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that   
   the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls   
   harbour such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms." (Albert   
   Einstein, obituary in New York Times, 19 April 1955)   
      
   "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony   
   of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and   
   actions of human beings." (Albert Einstein) Following his wife's   
   advice in responding to Rabbi Herbert Goldstein of the International   
   Synagogue in New York, who had sent Einstein a cablegram bluntly   
   demanding Do you believe in God? Quoted from and citation notes   
   derived from Victor J. Stenger, Has Science Found God? (draft: 2001),   
   chapter 3.   
      
   Oh, "Spinoza's God" is not a reference to a deity, but to the hidden   
   forces of the natural world that we can come to understand.   
   --   
      
   Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail   
   Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5   
   Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011   
      
   "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the   
   source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a   
   stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as   
   good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein   
      
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