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   jt august to Sam Gillett   
   Re: Jack Tramiel at CHM - Dec. 10 !!!   
   23 Oct 07 23:10:23   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.cbm, rec.games.video.classic   
   From: starsabre@net.att   
      
   In article <298Ti.2916$_64.2467@trnddc02>,   
    "Sam Gillett"  wrote:   
      
   > First you bring the PET in from outer space.  Now here comes IBM from the   
   > same place.  Keep in mind that the personal computer market was much more   
   > fragmented in the 1980's than it is today.  Two major segments were the home   
   > computer segment, which was dominated by Commodore and Atari, and the   
   > business computer segment where there were several CP/M machines which were   
   > quickly displaced by the IBM PC/XT and the various clones.  And then there   
   > was Apple whic sort of stradled the line between the home and small business   
   > market.   
   >   
   > IBM had very little to do with the rise and fall of either Commodore or   
   > Atari.   
      
   I was incorporating responses to earlier elements of the thread with the   
   IBM related commentary.  And the PET was heavily discussed in this   
   thread.  If your news-reader supports back-threading, chase back up the   
   thread and you will see earlier posts about these, to which my reply was   
   intended.   
      
   Someone had posted that the PET was selling strong up to the advent of   
   the C=64.  I did a little online research and found what I thought to be   
   accurate was correct, that the PET had fallen off dramatically before   
   the C=64 became a significant player.   
      
   Elsewhere, someone offered up that the IBM was or was not a player in   
   this time frame (I now cannot remember which), and I was trying to lay   
   some specific time frame elements to the IBM for the sake of time   
   perspective.   
      
   And I never said IBM related directly to Commodore's or Atari's home   
   computer successes or downfalls, although a lot of people left both of   
   those to go Mac or PC late in the 80's.   
      
   jt   
      
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