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   From: wildstar128@hotmail.com   
      
   "Klompmeester"  wrote in message   
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   >> Majority of the mismanagement occured right after Jack left.   
   >>   
   >> That is normal corporate conditions at the time in highly competitive   
   >> environment. I didn't say it wasn't harsh but it was that harshness that   
   >> driven the employees to do what they did. Classic way to drive employees   
   >> to show there magic and push the employees to do there best talents. Come   
   >> up with innovative ways to do things.   
   >   
   > Only a fucking pleb who has never had a job worth a shit would say that.   
   >   
   >> What would have driven them if there wasn't that pressure.   
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   >   
   > Bullshit.   
      
   If the engineers had there way, the C64 would have been a geek's "wet dream"   
   but it would have been more expensive. Commodore execs would have had to   
   raise the price in order to pay the large advertisment costs, employee   
   costs, and have a decent proft.   
      
   That kind of pressure, (whether personally liked or not) drives engineers   
   "who want to provide a decent product" to be creative so it can be sold at   
   the price level.   
      
   The C-One is a perfect example of a "project" that got featuritis. If this   
   was going to be a product for a corporation (I know it wasn't but it was   
   going to be sold to people and thus a product), it became a disaster of a   
   product. As featuritis set in, it became an outright failure as a project   
   because it only has a small selective few even doing anything with it. Jeri   
   and Jens and others working on it are good engineers but Jens - for sure,   
   isn't a good businessman. Ok, not a good businessman for the kind of   
   marketplace like Commodore.   
      
   C64DTV - essentially fulfilling Jeri's dream for a "Single-chip Commodore   
   64", was by far a larger success with well over 250,000 units sold. If this   
   was a main-stream computer company in the 80s, 250,000+ computers sold would   
   be considered a pretty good number of units sold. IIRC: The total number of   
   units sold were something between 500,000 to 750,000 - including Hummer.   
      
   However, there was problems with the C64DTV, though.  Where things were   
   over-cheapen and low-quality components were put in which made little to no   
   difference on price. To some degree, we can call this a relative success.   
      
   I would say more C64 users have and use the C64DTV then the C-One. In Jeri's   
   goals, this would be a bigger success then the C-One.   
      
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