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   alt.c64      Putting Jack Tramiel on a big pedestal      4,524 messages   

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   Wildstar to All   
   Re: Update on Jack Tramiel Appearance   
   11 Nov 07 16:22:25   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.cbm, rec.games.video.classic   
   From: wildstar128@hotmail.com   
      
   Sure they do start off as projects but the businessman will make come in and   
   put a control factor.   
   Commodore never was about "trying to make the best computer of the world".   
   Engineers always try to make something better than what exists. The   
   businessman or "Jack Tramiel" of a business would step into the lab and say,   
   "I want this on the market for $300". Long before the project or set of   
   projects are complete. Sometime a set of projects originally intended to be   
   a set of multiple products are then combined into one greater product. In   
   Commodore's case, "The c64 and vic-20.'   
      
   The purpose of a businessman leading and keeping a leash on the R&D is to   
   make sure the engineers isn't wasting time and company money on ideas and   
   new fangle gadgets that aren't going to be sellable. Jack's concern is the   
   money revenues as with any decent CEO/President is to be concern with.   
   Otherwise, the engineers may just be dabbling with ideas and then the   
   project ends up being infected by "featuritis". All engineers do when they   
   have free reign with money and time.   
      
   Sure, projects were cut and some interesting ideas may have been dropped.   
   Commodore couldn't dedicate money to sell all these "ideas". This isn't an   
   MIT lab. You are doing this work to product products not just a bunch of   
   projects/ideas. You have to sell your idea in order to get started. You have   
   to continue to sell your idea to Jack to continue. Normal. Jack is concern   
   like any other businessman in charge of company money and resources, about   
   your use of time and company money for things that won't bring in revenue.   
   Jack being a hard-nose on the matters was just a method that works. It works   
   and works in the highly competitive environment of the computer industry.   
   Especially, in the low cost market where you have many contenders.   
      
   Jack did what he had to do in leading a company. It worked and was the right   
   kind of management to drive Commodore. Today, it doesn't matter about how   
   Jack's management style. Really, we don't care. Even the people who WORKED   
   for Atari don't care anymore. Jack Tramiel was a tough, hard-nose business   
   leader. He was a competitive business leader. The right kind of leader in a   
   competitive market.   
      
   In case of Atari, Atari was in no place to compete with Nintendo at the time   
   he started. By the time Atari get back into the fray of the console market,   
   Jack handed over Atari to his sons. Atari's other leaders didn't listen to   
   Jack all too well. Sam didn't have the same aggressive control over Atari's   
   other leaders and employees like Jack did. They didn't get consensus in   
   decisions. Sam didn't "dictate" where needed to. Jack kind of stayed out of   
   things in those early 90s years unless things needed to be turned around.   
   Bail Atari out.   
      
   Could that be a mistake? Perhaps. Then again, Jack been wanting to retire   
   for sometime already.   
   If Jack kept a stronger control over things and did more "Jack attacks"   
   where needed, maybe Atari would have still be a strong contender in the   
   console market. We would never know.   
      
      
   "jt august"  wrote in message   
   news:starsabre-B6E7DF.14481411112007@inetnews.worldnet.att.net...   
   > In article ,   
   > "Wildstar"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> The fancy projects get cost reduced and is less than what the project may   
   >> have been.   
   >>   
   >> Projects don't become product unless A) cost is reduced and B) Features   
   >> are   
   >> reduced or re-engineered in such a way that it reduced cost and thusly   
   >> reduced cost. C) All the above until the price is affordable to average   
   >> people.   
   >   
   > Well, of course.  But most products start off as projects, and those   
   > with market potential get final development. Look at concept cars.  None   
   > ever make it to market as displayed, but some get refined (such as the   
   > Dodge Daytona, the Dodge Viper and the Plymoth Prowler), but more often,   
   > it is features of concept cars that get refined into production models.   
   >   
   > jt   
      
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