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   From: wildstar128@hotmail.com   
      
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   > And who put them in charge? Oh, that's right...   
   > Don't kid yourself.  He was still very much involved with the company   
   > beyond '89.   
      
   Sure, he was present but he really wasn't making all the day to day   
   decisions. He bought the company so his sons can run the company   
   (originally, that was what Commodore was.)   
      
   Jack had to step in several times to take control of the helm to straighten   
   out matters and did it several times. Other than that, Jack didn't want to   
   have continous control and it was his sons job to do with it accordingly.   
      
   >> Whether you like Jack or not,   
   >   
   > Put me down for NOT.   
      
   Ok.   
      
   >>  Remember, Jack was not the person running Atari during the   
   >> game console crash of 1983.   
   >   
   > Yes, everybody is fully aware of that...   
   >   
   >   
   >> In fact, Atari was resurrected and given 10+ years on its life.   
   >   
   > A slow, painful death is far worse than a quick one.  It would have   
   > been better if Tramiel renamed the company, rather than tarnish its   
   > history by using it as a means to exact revenge on his enemies.  And   
   > then to sell it to (of all entities) a disk drive manufacturer?!   
   > That was 11 years ago, and I still can't believe it.   
      
   Yeah, because Jack had stockhold there. It was because it had some stable   
   finances and stable income. As years persued on, Jack had been having less   
   and less involvement of Atari's operation except periodic periods.   
      
   Atari's brand is still respected and competition. Atari can still at anytime   
   return to the forefront. If you want to hear an evil story, read about the   
   Commodore downfall and the Medhi Ali / Irving Gould story. Look at that   
   convoluted management. They were raking in millions of dollars. The CEO   
   could have personally reinstated Commodore on its feet. If you looked at the   
   story, you can see an outright attempt to destroy the company. Jack wasn't   
   all that bad. He attempted to save the company several times. There are many   
   factors involved and you can't rightfully place the blame solely on Jack   
   Tramiel. You have to look at the whole story. Why did Atari moved the ST out   
   of the American market - could a settlement agreement with Commodore be a   
   factor? Having to do with Amiga technology. I heard something about that but   
   I would think that if there is some truth to this rumor, it might. Atari   
   having to cut down its ST advertisment in the US. Though US sales continued,   
   it was not advertised by Atari much in the US if I recall. The Jaguar   
   situation, the gamepad screwed its sales. You must make consoles with   
   playability in mind. If the gamepad was hard to use, it will effect sales.   
   It did for the XBox. Microsoft straighten that issue relatively quickly.   
   Atari didn't. Atari had a very awkward gamepad for Jaguar.   
      
   > Bushnell actually tried to buy it back at least a part of it - and   
   > might have succeeded -  if it weren't for Merril Lynch deciding to   
   > take him for all he was worth...   
      
   Sure, and Jack would have sold it to him.   
      
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