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   From: wildstar128@hotmail.com   
      
   From a literal grammatical way, you're right. From contextual way, you   
   misunderstood.   
      
   Jack Tramiel is and has been a businessman for 30 or so years when he bought   
   Atari. By the time that he has handed over the day to day operations of   
   Atari to his son, Sam Tramiel, it was like 35(+) years. Jack Tramiel has   
   raised Commodore during the aggressive typewriter/business machines wars of   
   IBM vs. All during the 1950s. This was a very aggressive period where IBM   
   would do aggressive tactics. Some of which are the same kinds of tactics   
   that Thomas Watson, Jr.'s father Thomas Watson, Sr. did in his early years   
   at NCR.   
      
   I contended you from the very basis that people don't care about him atoning   
   for shit. If you can't have every businessman this world has ever had to   
   atone for every "questionable ethics" to downright unethical actions, then   
   why pick on Jack. Just because he didn't make Atari dominate the entire game   
   console and/or computer industry. Guess what, even the mighty Nintendo no   
   longer dominates all. Nor is Commodore.   
      
   Competition, some mistakes and whoopy do. At least Jack was several margins   
   better than Medhi Ali of Commodore. This story reeks to levels comparable to   
   the Enron scandal. Due to Bahama laws, they got away with one of the biggest   
   scandal in history. When you pull the docs on this. Thanks for some, some of   
   it has. Too bad, not all of the corporate records of Commodore. Too bad a   
   mass majority of it is not available.   
      
   To put it frank, you're demanding restitution and atonement from one guy on   
   merits that 99% of the corporate leaders get away with doing worse and never   
   making atonement.   
      
   Have you ever thought that for some of the crazy nuts in the Atari   
   community, with all due respect and no ill-will intended against the Atari   
   community, death is the only accepted atonement. If you all can't come to a   
   unanymous decision of what the accepted atonement measure that is fair in   
   consideration of ALL factors, and histories (Atari and world as whole) ,   
   then we can't demand atonement from Jack Tramiel. You'll also have to be   
   fair and hear his side of the stories. How he makes his decisions. Before we   
   ask him to atone, ask him about how he made his decisions in a respectable   
   manner. How he lead Commodore and Atari and employees. Ask for background on   
   how he made his decisions, motives, driving elements and so on. Be kind and   
   respectful and CALM. Try to at least understand.   
      
   "jt august"  wrote in message   
   news:starsabre-B3EAC5.20542711112007@inetnews.worldnet.att.net...   
   > In article ,   
   > "Wildstar"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> The businessman or "Jack Tramiel" of a business would step in ....   
   >   
   > To read this phrase as you posted it would imply that Jack was not a   
   > businessman, which is what we have been contending the whole damn thread.   
   >   
   > Do us a favor, wildy, up the dosage.   
   >   
   > jt   
      
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