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   alt.c64      Putting Jack Tramiel on a big pedestal      4,524 messages   

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   Message 3,544 of 4,524   
   Wildstar to Joel Koltner   
   Re: Update on Jack Tramiel Appearance   
   12 Nov 07 11:53:03   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.cbm, rec.games.video.classic   
   From: wildstar128@hotmail.com   
      
   Lets remember, the computer industry of today has grown and matured.   
   Remember, it was a pioneering time.   
      
   Lets remember that people didn't go to college to enter those positions.   
   They didn't get BS degrees in Software Engineering or BS degrees in Computer   
   Hardware Engineering. Degrees like that was not conferred. Also, it was a   
   different generation culture. Young people are more rebellious and talk   
   back. They say,"I quit". Also job employers don't talk to the previous   
   employers to find out what kind of employee you were. Back then, getting   
   fired can mean that you can never get a job in that field and other closely   
   related field.   
      
   All the CEOs and Presidents and business leaders were more serious and   
   hard-nose. It is a different generation culture, now. When you talked about   
   the times, it was hard-nose and aggressive. Competitions were agressive. You   
   even saw it in the grocery markets and other markets of aggressive   
   competition and the price wars. It was a cultural price wars. Remember the   
   Pepsi/Cola wars? That was the standard model of business. We are now in a   
   more passive period. A larger majority of today's young generation in   
   America are ball-less and would chicken out under fire THEN it was   
   generation(s) ago.   
      
   This is because people grew up taking the world for granted. They don't take   
   the crap from people like Jack because they take the vast majority of good   
   paying jobs for granted. Be happy, you have what you got because that can   
   change. Jack was the right kind of business leader for the time in that   
   generation culture and pioneering age of home computers. Today, he might not   
   be right but we don't have that aggressive price war competition   
   environment. Now, prices are more expensive. Cloning is the only way to keep   
   the prices affordable in certain markets. Produce the products in volume and   
   you got it. The market is more "horizontal business" model.   
      
   The market shift was in the late 80s through the early 90s. Settling in by   
   the mid 90s. This started in the mid-80s. Set in by the mid-90s. Today, Jack   
   Tramiel would be a dinosaur in this market and business style would be   
   archaic and even unfitting until an opening breaks in for a market shift.   
      
   Jack's business style is to bring companies into new markets. Gain dominance   
   and then let others go from there. That is the type of business leader he   
   was. Shake the system to gain dominance over a market or take a move on a   
   new market. Once you have control, then another business leader of a   
   different but compatible style will need to be in place. A maintain control   
   leader.   
      
   "Joel Koltner"  wrote in message   
   news:13jh2vb3dhtjne0@corp.supernews.com...   
   > "Wildstar"  wrote in message   
   > news:EKaZi.95$P16.54@newsfe07.lga...   
   >> I didn't say it wasn't harsh but it was that harshness that driven the   
   >> employees to do what they did. Classic way to drive employees to show   
   >> there magic and push the employees to do there best talents. Come up with   
   >> innovative ways to do things.   
   >   
   > It may be the "classic" way, but it's no longer generally considered the   
   > most effective way.  Indeed, the best designers generally won't put up   
   > with the kind of balogna scenario you're setting up there -- these days   
   > there are plenty of jobs that treat them with respect and pay just as   
   > well.   
   >   
   >> What would have driven them if there wasn't that pressure.   
   >   
   > Mmm... their innate creativity and desire to excel while being fully aware   
   > of the business realities of schedules and costs?  Their good work ethic?   
   >   
   > If you send me your address I'll send you a copy of John Wood's book for   
   > Xmas... :-)   
   >   
   > ---Joel   
   >   
   >   
      
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