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   Message 3,552 of 4,524   
   Wildstar to Joel Koltner   
   Re: Update on Jack Tramiel Appearance   
   12 Nov 07 16:02:34   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.cbm, rec.games.video.classic   
   From: wildstar128@hotmail.com   
      
   "Joel Koltner"  wrote in message   
   news:13jheeb98b4d74c@corp.supernews.com...   
   > "Wildstar"  wrote in message   
   > news:_N1_i.66$_x4.32@newsfe06.lga...   
   >> Here is the thing, people make mistakes but it doesn't mean that we must   
   >> demand or continue to demand atonement UNLESS you can get every person   
   >> who ever was, is and ever will come to atone to every mistake they make.   
   >   
   > That really doesn't follow... although certainly if you pick the right   
   > religion they'd suggest that everyone regularly needs to atone for their   
   > "sins." :-)   
   >   
   > Look, Jack Tramiel, like everyone, was largely a mixed bag -- he certainly   
   > did plenty of good, but unfortunately he seems to have done more than his   
   > "fair share" of bad as well.  Hoping that such a person might eventually   
   > view their actions with a little bit of hindsight and, even if they don't   
   > believe those actions could or should have been done different, letting   
   > those who suffered some of the fallout know that you empathize with them   
   > does a lot of good.   
      
   Lets get straight to my point. Who really cares. We aren't chasing after   
   Medhi Ali or Irving Gould. We don't want to exhume that. The bottom line is,   
   we don't worry about the little things. So, Atari failed for a variety of   
   factors. Since every side of the story isn't analyzed. I ask you, could   
   Atari engineers have fault in the fall of Atari. Designing a unusable   
   controller?   
      
   > I live in Oregon, where during World War II women in Japan were employed   
   > to do the sewing and manufacturing of balloon-based incendiary bombs that   
   > were to travel with the Pacific winds and then start forest fires as a   
   > means of helping Japan's war effort.  Happily (for the U.S.) they weren't   
   > particularly effective (most never made it across the ocean, and of those   
   > that did very few started fires of any significant size), but many years   
   > later there was a meeting between a group of these women and some in the   
   > U.S. where they discussed the history, how people on all sides had taken   
   > regrettable actions -- even though they were generally justifiable given   
   > the context of the war --, and perhaps how to avoid similar problems in   
   > the future.   
      
   Yes Joel, I know about that story. The trees here (5-10 miles west/southwest   
   of where I live) were just too wet to burn. None of the trees caught on fire   
   because of the thick bark layer and very wet and saturated wood. Perhaps,   
   the story above can be similarly done but   
      
   > Jack Tramiel could pretty fairly be accussed of lighting off a few   
   > incendiary bombs in his day, I think. :-)   
      
   Sure. However, like most of American don't "demand" atonement from the   
   Japanese for WWII or any of the soldiers. They did what they were told. When   
   you look at the whole scenario, it isn't worth it.   
      
   There is a saying, "He who is without sin cast the first stone". Therefore,   
   I'll paraphrase," He who is without sin to be atoned cast the demands for   
   atonement from those with sin to atone".   
      
   Are you truly free of any sin. It doesn't matter who are what it relates to.   
      
   >> Many of us may not remember the Portfolio but I do.   
   >   
   > As someone else mentioned, most people remember it from the movie   
   > Terminator II (even if they couldn't name the particular model :-) ).  I   
   > do think the Portfolio helped spur HP's LX100 (and later LX200), which   
   > were more complete implementations of roughly the same idea -- they were   
   > quite successful.   
      
   Sure. Spur ideas. Look at Amiga and it spurred Microsoft and others to   
   better improve their OS. All spurred from Xerox.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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