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   Message 3,560 of 4,524   
   Wildstar to Joel Koltner   
   Re: Update on Jack Tramiel Appearance   
   13 Nov 07 21:50:53   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.cbm, rec.games.video.classic   
   From: wildstar128@hotmail.com   
      
   What have they done *YOU* wrong. You ask for atonement when things actually   
   were inflicted to you.   
      
   Jack didn't inflict anything to anyone. It wasn't your money. If Jack has   
   anyone to atone to, then it be the employees and most importantly, the   
   shareholders. Guess who held the biggest financial interest and was impacted   
   the most by Atari's collapse, Jack Tramiel himself. It was his money. You   
   only bought an Atari product and can use it until you're death. Acting like   
   we have any right over the company or brand. We don't. None of us at   
   Commodore, and none of us at Atari camp.   
      
   It isn't like Jack Tramiel stole your money or done something to *YOU*. Did   
   he?   
      
   If not, lets get over it. Sure people were upset and angry at the time but   
   people don't dwell on demanding atonement for this kind of crap EXCEPT   
   loons. If Medhi Ali showed himself, I wouldn't give a damn about him making   
   atonement for the mistakes he made at Commodore. Guess what, I was using   
   Commodore 64/128 back then. These kinds of things happens. How many people   
   are asking for atonement from Coleco and those guys who fell out of the   
   computer industry. Commodore and Atari fell out due to mistakes in decisions   
   and fell out because of competition and lack of sales. Did you have ANY   
   stake at Atari OR Commodore. Does any of those "complainers" / loons   
   demanding atonement have any stakehold at Atari or Commodore or both? How   
   were they effected?   
      
   So, lets get off these guys asses and move on. In other words, get a life   
   and move on.   
      
   "Joel Koltner"  wrote in message   
   news:13jkn8n4q02lea5@corp.supernews.com...   
   > "Wildstar"  wrote in message   
   > news:eRq_i.167$ck1.94@newsfe06.lga...   
   >> So, saying, "Sorry" isn't going to please everyone as an "atonement".   
   >   
   > I think you're wrong there.  Even if you, personally, have never wanted   
   > anyone to apologize for screwing you over, there are plenty of people who   
   > aren't "loons" who get something from it.   
   >   
   >> For the Japanese of WWII, there is no need or call for atonement.   
   >   
   > There was plenty of call: In 1992 the U.S. government signed over $20,000   
   > checks to every internee who was still alive, aren't you?  Bush (senior)   
   > accompanied the payments with a formal apology.  (See:   
   > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment)  So apparently   
   > Bush didn't think all those folks asking for atonement were looney, eh?   
      
   You see, you are comparing attack on people's lives to mere bad business   
   decisions. Sure, there maybe some matters of atonement for actual physical   
   harm. There are different severity.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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