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   From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil   
      
   In article , "Joel   
   Koltner"  wrote:   
      
   > "J.B. Wood"  wrote in message   
   > news:gcfks5$2ki$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil...   
   > > That title, however, is reserved for those who have earned it IMHO and   
   > > understand the underlying theory and applied mathematics.   
   >   
   > In the U.S. this isn't really the case -- plenty of people call themselves   
   > engineers who don't have the traditional four-year college degree   
      
   Hello, and you can call yourself anything you want - it doesn't mean   
   others are obliged to accept it (especially a prospective employer).  I   
   never meant to imply that a non-degreed person couldn't have the skills of   
   an engineer.  Orville and Wilbur Wright were arguably one of the finest   
   examples of non-degreed scientists/engineers of the 20th cent.  This means   
   that while they were also inventors they weren't tinkerers.  They didn't   
   just "stumble" upon successful controlled and powered heavier-than-air   
   flight.  And applied mathematics played a large role in that success.   
      
   In the U.S. when you're at a party and someone asks what you do for a   
   living and you say "I'm a ________ (electrical, mechanical, aerospace,   
   etc) engineer" it usually means you have at least at B.S. degree or   
   equivalent.  Job ads in the U.S. for a "------- Engineer" (again railroad   
   and nautical usage aside) almost always require at least this level of   
   education.  So if you go to the job interview without that prerequisite   
   you better have something damn fine in your resume to offset it.   
   Sincerely,   
      
   John Wood (Code 5550)        e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil   
   Naval Research Laboratory   
   4555 Overlook Avenue, SW   
   Washington, DC 20375-5337   
      
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