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   Message 1,443 of 3,205   
   Jim Brown to Charles Beauchamp   
   Re: A fresh perspective on Natalie Maine   
   01 Oct 05 15:40:35   
   
   XPost: alt.music.country, rec.music.country, rec.sport.football.college   
   From: jimbo@wells.net   
      
   "Charles Beauchamp"  wrote in message   
   news:GN2dncK8dO1mXaPeRVn-rg@comcast.com...   
   > Jim Brown wrote:   
   > > "Bryan S. Slick"  wrote in message   
   > > news:MPG.1da8195ae6ccc7d398a714@news-40.giganews.com...   
   > >> Yeah, I mean it.   
   > >>   
   > >> The song "Travelin' Soldier" just came on the radio station I'm   
   > >> listening to, and it got me to thinking on this tangent.   
   > >>   
   > >> It seems to me that a great many artists take advantage of the   
   > >> jingoism rampant in this nation to make a quick dime.  Whether they   
   > >> agree with the sentiments in their music or not is fairly irrelevant   
   > >> in this context.  World events beget wars beget patriotic fervor   
   > >> begets.. profit.  On some level, this is fairly repugnant.   
   > >>   
   > >> Naturally, the argument can be made that most artist are simply   
   > >> expressing themselves on the issues of the day, and if they make   
   > >> money off of that whether the issue of the day involves American   
   > >> soldiers in combat or not, they're simply doing what they do and   
   > >> they have every right to make a living doing so.  I have no quibble   
   > >> with said argument.   
   > >>   
   > >> In the case of the Dixie Chicks, however, we have an interesting   
   > >> example of artists that could have exploited world events to their   
   > >> own gain, and yet did the exact opposite.  When "Travelin' Soldier"   
   > >> debuted on the radio, an outpouring of love and attention for the   
   > >> Dixie Chicks came down the Billboard charts as an avalanche down a   
   > >> Swiss Alp.  The song is a poignant description of a snippet of the   
   > >> life of a young American soldier sent off to fight in Viet Nam, and   
   > >> his interaction with a young girl in her senior year of high school.   
   > >> Throughout the song, letters are exchanged, and Dixie Chicks' lead   
   > >> singer Natalie Maines busts out doleful and dulcet tones, pouring   
   > >> emotion into the lyrics.  As the song reaches its conclusion, the   
   > >> "Travelin' Soldier" is killed, and the focus of the song switches to   
   > >> the impact of his death on the young girl to which he was writing.   
   > >> The song ends shortly thereafter.   
   > >>   
   > >> Shortly after the release of 'Travelin' Soldier', as mentioned   
   > >> previously, the Dixie Chicks were riding high, and seemed to be on   
   > >> the rebound after a brief drop in popularity after the impossibly   
   > >> high crescendo reached after the release of their debut, "Wide Open   
   > >> Spaces".   
   > >>   
   > >> And then one concert in Europe changed everything.  While political   
   > >> fervor aimed in the main at President George W. Bush raged in the   
   > >> United States, Chicks' member Maines addressed the crowd.  In   
   > >> remarks that were replayed ad infinitum on American talk radio and   
   > >> country stations, she told the crowd not to worry, that the Chicks   
   > >> were embarassed to be from the same state as the American President.   
   > >>   
   > >> The backlash back at home was immediate and severe.  The Dixie Chicks   
   > >> and their music were cast down into the pit of No Play/No Mention.   
   > >> Requests for their music were rebuffed by DJs.  CD-burning parties   
   > >> were held, and sales of the Dixie Chicks' music dropped to near-zero.   
   > >>   
   > >> While it can be said without question that Maines' comment was rather   
   > >> ridiculous, particularly in the context of a concert (people come to   
   > >> concerts to hear music, not the political views of the artists), on   
   > >> at least one level, to make the statement at all was courageous on   
   > >> the part of Maines.  The women of the Dixie Chicks are not stupid,   
   > >> and Maines had to be aware of the fact that her comments would be   
   > >> replayed back in the United States, and yet she took the opportunity   
   > >> to express her dissent, regardless of the consequences.  While   
   > >> stupendously foolish from a public relations standpoint, again, such   
   > >> a move was courageous from a personal standpoint.  If Maines truly   
   > >> felt that it was important for her to express her opinion on the   
   > >> American President, and was willing to assume the PR penalties back   
   > >> home, then bravo to her.  The right to express dissent with the   
   > >> ruling government is a fundamental right of all Americans, and   
   > >> there's no guarantee that the expression of same comes with the   
   > >> right to be considered popular.  Knowing this, Maines chose to   
   > >> exercise her rights.  Whether her message was pointless and foolish   
   > >> or not (in my opinion, it was).. the expression of same was uniquely   
   > >> American.   
   > >>   
   > >> This is assuming, of course, that she knew what she was doing and   
   > >> didn't care about the consequences.  If she simply didn't think it   
   > >> through, well then shame on her for not thinking before she spoke.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > alt.nail.head   
   > >   
   > > Plus the fact that they have put out little music since this.   
   > >   
   > >   
   >   
   > My deal is this.  What she said was stupid.  When she was pressed about it   
   > in interviews later...she demonstrated that she is a brainless twit...but   
   I   
   > do not care.  I like the music.  Lefties make most of the best movies and   
   > best music.  I pay them to entertain me.  I do not much give a spit what   
   > they think about the issues of the day.  It has no effect on whether or   
   not   
   > I buy their music or watch their movies.  I vote for politicians that   
   agree   
   > with me.  I buy entertainment that I like.  The two do not cross.   
      
      
   You were doing so well...then you said this.   
      
   Jane   
   > Fonda is one of the all time hawtest actresses in history and also one of   
   > the greatest.  That is all.   
      
      
   Both points are so rong.   
      
      
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