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   Message 1,447 of 3,205   
   Zaphod Beeblebrox to Bryan S. Slick   
   Re: A fresh perspective on Natalie Maine   
   02 Oct 05 00:07:31   
   
   XPost: alt.music.country, rec.sport.football.college   
   From: victor.kingNOSPAM@comcast.net   
      
   Bryan S. Slick wrote:   
   > [Zaphod Beeblebrox victor.kingNOSPAM@comcast.net]   
   > [Sat, 01 Oct 2005 16:27:21 -0400]   
   >   
   > :Bryan S. Slick wrote:   
   > :> [PrinceGunter slippymississippi@yahoo.com]   
   > :> [1 Oct 2005 10:54:54 -0700]   
   > :>   
   > :> :This poast somehow misses the greatest irony of the 21st century:   
   > :> :country music fans will go all gaga over a song by a fat woman about   
   > :> :poisoning to death a lover who smacked her in the eye, but let her tell   
   > :> :you she's ashamed to be from the same state as a dumbass who has proven   
   > :> :his incompetence again and again and again and again (and again and   
   > :> :again and again... ad nauseum), and KATIE BAR THE DOOR!!!!   
   > :>   
   > :> She made a disparaging comment about the President of the United States,   
   > :> on March 15th 2003, in Europe.   
   > :>   
   > :   
   > :What the fuck does him being president have to do with anything?   
   > :Maybe you can't call him a dumnass because he's your c-in-c, but Joe   
   > :Blow sure as hell can if he wants to without being labeled a   
   > :traitor/America-hater/communist/etc./etc.   
   > :   
   > :> Does the subject of world affairs just completely miss you, or what?   
   > :>   
   > :OK - I'll bite.  Pray enlighten me.   
   >   
   > As an American celebrity, to mock the Commander-in-Chief while thousands   
   > of the soldiers are poised to invade a foreign nation.. particularly   
   > while surrounded by a throng of anti-Americanism.. is irresponsible.   
   >   
      
   Bullshit!  What's "irresponsible" to you is "speaking one's conscience"   
   to another.  And the "celebrity" part has diddly to do with anything.   
      
   > There is a difference between the legal right to do something and the   
   > moral right to do the same thing.   
      
   I don't believe this!  What is "immoral" about calling someone a dumnass   
   if you think he/she is a dumnass?  Not very well thought out?  Maybe.   
   Even stupid?  Maybe. But immoral?  Hell, no.   
      
   >   
   > Mind you, *I* think that the opinions of celebrities on political issues   
   > are completely irrelevant.   
      
   So do I.   
      
   >                               However, a large portion of society doesn't,   
   > for whatever reason, and the celebrities have to be aware of that.   
   >   
      
   But that does NOT mean they can't say what they want to  without being   
   labeled immoral/traitor/America-hater/communist/etc./etc.   
   Tell me - do you think football players have an obligation to be more   
   restrained in what they say because they are heroes in the eyes of your   
   kids?   
      
   > Unless, of course, they want to face the kind of backlash as that   
   > suffered by the Dixie Chicks after Maines' comment.   
   >   
      
   While I can't comment on whether Maines had the brains to ever think   
   this far, if she actually said what she did *despite* being aware of the   
   backlash it would cause - well, all I can say is, more power to her!   
      
      
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