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|    MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk to All    |
|    MI5 Persecution: cost of the operation    |
|    28 Nov 06 14:45:59    |
      XPost: alt.gossip.celebrities, alt.humor.dutch, can.talk.guns       XPost: linux.debian.doc, alt.law-enforcement.traffic, tw.bbs.rec.dance       XPost: microsoft.public.es.windowsxp.aplicaciones, alt.fan.sweetness, tx.guns              -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=       -= MI5: cost of the operation -=       -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=              Here's what a couple of other people on Usenet (uk.misc) had to say       regarding the cost of running such an operation...              PO: >Have some sense, grow up and smell reality. What you are talking about       PO: >would take loads of planning, tens of thousands of pounds and lots of       PO: >people involved in the planning, execution and maintenance of it. You       PO: >must have a very high opinion of yourself to think you are worth it.              PM: >But why? And why you? Do you realize how much it would cost to keep       PM: >one person under continuous surveillance for five years? Think about       PM: >all the man/hours. Say they _just_ allocated a two man team and a       PM: >supervisor. OK., Supervisor's salary, say, #30,000 a year. Two men,       PM: >#20,000 a year each. But they'd need to work in shifts -- so it would       PM: >be six men at #20,000 (which with on-costs would work out at more like       PM: >#30,000 to the employer.)       PM: >       PM: >So, we're talking #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say, #40,000 for the       PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then you've got the hardware involved. And       PM: >any transcription that needs doing. You don't think the 'Big Boss'       PM: >would listen to hours and hours of tapes, do you.       PM: >       PM: >So, all in all, you couldn't actually do the job for much less than       PM: >a quarter million a year. Over five years. What are you doing that makes       PM: >it worth the while of the state to spend over one and a quarter million       PM: >on you?              Those are pretty much the sort of calculations that went through my head       once I stopped to consider what it must be costing them to run this       operation. The partial answer is, there have been periods when the       intensity has been greater, and times when little has happened. In fact,       for much of 1993 and the first half of 1994, very little happened. Although       I don't think that was for reasons of money - if they can tap into the       taxpayer they're not going to be short of resources, are they?              The more complete answer is in the enormity of what they're doing. Relative       to the cost to British pride of seeing their country humiliated for the       persecution of their own citizens, isn't is worth the cost of four or five       people to try to bring things to a close in the manner they would wish? To       the government a million or two is quite honestly nothing - if they can       convince themselves of the necessity of what they're doing, resources will       not be the limiting factor.              47                     --       Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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