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|    => Vox PopuliŠ to jeremyfive    |
|    Re: => Jesse "Hymie Town" Jackson wants     |
|    28 Nov 06 14:37:09    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.gossip.celebrities, alt.hollywood       XPost: alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.libertarian, alt.true-crime       XPost: misc.legal       From: vox@popu.li              jeremyfive wrote:       >> "We have to evaluate the use of the n-word and categorize it as hate       >> speech, no matter who uses it."       >       > I agree it is hate speech,              Which of course IS protected by the 1st Amendment.                     >by and large, I think it mostly has power       > in the minds of those who are being "oppressed" by the speech.              So if you "feel" oppressed then you "are" oppressed.              >       > Does any group have the right to define words that people cannot say?              Can one verbally threaten the President?              > I don't think so. People are going to use the words they want to use.       > That is not controllable.              Nor should it be in a free society.              >       > A lot of blacks use "nigger" to refer to each other, and this tends to       > take the power out of it generally.              Yep, conversion and dilution are the best tactics.              >       > Gays have discovered this, too. At any pride gathering, you'll hear       > chants of "We here, we're queer!" Gays don't love their word       > either--they've only learned how to take the sting out of it.              Rendering it quite useless as a slander by homo-haters.              >       > I think this is a much better approach than "censoring" the word--that       > one is a racist if it ever passes one's lips. That seems silly to me.              And unconstitutional.              >       > I attended a Cicily Tyson speech once where she devoted a lot of time       > to the day she first heard the word "nigger". Having attended a black       > activist speech a few days before, where the latter was talking       > "street", Cicily seems frail and precious and weak by comparison.       >       > I doubt that Michael Richards had racial intent in his routine. It       > was an unfortunate outburst. More likely, he has absorbed some of the       > gutter humor of comedy clubs and gone overboard.              Yep, he was "channeling" a racist as part of his act ...              > Ever been to a       > typical comedy club on an average night? (Especially when they are       > trying out new acts?) The humor is pretty raunchy, and at times       > pathetic. Racist? Definitely. Sexist? Definitely. Homophobic?       > Definitely.       >       > That's why I don't go anymore.       >       > J              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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