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   Message 2,773 of 3,205   
   Tom Potter to Art Deco   
   Re: Have you been slandered on the Inter   
   05 Jul 07 19:38:59   
   
   XPost: alt.auto.parts.wanted, alt.banjo, alt.consumers.free-stuff   
   From: tdp1001@yahoo.com   
      
   "Art Deco"  wrote in message   
   news:040720071304221026%erfc@caballista.org...   
   > Tom Potter  wrote:   
   >   
   >>"jcon"  wrote in message   
   >>news:1183469789.392869.183060@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...   
   >>> On Jul 1, 7:00 am, "Tom Potter"  wrote:   
   >>>> As can be seen from the post listed below,   
   >>>> and reading the newsgroups,   
   >>>> about 10 or 15 bigots and sociopaths   
   >>>> try to control the opinions, ideas, and information   
   >>>> expressed on the Internet,   
   >>>   
   >>> Nobody controls information on the internet.  As you've shown, any   
   >>> idiot can post whatever nonsense he or she wants.  No one   
   >>> would *dream* of stopping you, because you're so damn entertaining   
   >>> to ridicule.   
   >>>   
   >>>> by banding together and voting their victims   
   >>>> the dubious "Awards" listed.   
   >>>   
   >>> And this "controls information"...how, exactly?   
   >>>   
   >>>> Note that Pinku-Sensei, Kadaitcha Man, and Art Deco   
   >>>> are responsible for most of the "nominations" and "seconding",   
   >>>> and in fact almost all of the nominating and seconding,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> and that even though they will spam scores of newsgroups   
   >>>   
   >>> Whereas I notice you've limited yourself to a mere half   
   >>> a score for this one. Kudos for your self-control.   
   >>>   
   >>>> with hundreds of posts trying to round up votes for their victims,   
   >>>> they rarely get more than 10 or 15 others to join them.,   
   >>>   
   >>> Gosh, doesn't sound like they're controlling a hell of a lot   
   >>> then, does it?   
   >>>   
   >>>> and note that after they finish their nominating, seconding and voting,   
   >>>> they will spam scores of newsgroups   
   >>>> with hundreds of posts announcing the results of their votes.   
   >>>   
   >>> If this bothers you so much, I have one word: killfile   
   >>> (or is that two words?)   
   >>>   
   >>>> As a few bigots and sociopaths   
   >>>> inhibit timid folks from posting their opinions and ideas,   
   >>>> and as bold folks who post opinions and ideas and information   
   >>>> that the bigots want to suppress are slandered,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> it is clear that something has to be done to prevent   
   >>>> a few bigots, some with race, religion and political motives,   
   >>>> from controlling the free exchange of ideas on the Internet.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I am collecting the names of folks slandered on the Internet,   
   >>>> and if enough folks will support the effort,   
   >>>> my attorney will file Class Action suits against   
   >>>> any Political Party, Religious group, Lobbying Group,   
   >>>> company, etc. who is paying people   
   >>>> to slander folks on the Internet,   
   >>>   
   >>> So you think that Pinku-Sensei, Kadaitcha Man,   
   >>> Art Deco, et al are being *paid* to slander you?   
   >>>   
   >>> I believe you suffer from what is known at   
   >>> "delusions of relevance".   
   >>>   
   >>>> and he will have local attorneys file multiple suits   
   >>>> in the Small Claims Courts against   
   >>>> the most active individual slanderers.   
   >>>> (In other words, if an active individual slanderer   
   >>>> slanders 20 people, he will file 20 small claims   
   >>>> against that person.)   
   >>>   
   >>> Ummm... yeah...Good luck with that.  If nothing   
   >>> else, maybe you'll inspire a new award - the   
   >>> "Legal Eagle" or some such.   
   >>   
   >>It appears that "jcon" does not comprehend that   
   >>although Swiftboating people works,   
   >>that it is a negative social force,   
   >>   
   >>and that "jcon" thinks that it is natural, good, and proper to   
   >>institutionalize the "Jimmy Cartering", "Mel Gibsoning"   
   >>and "Swift Boating" people, products, companies, organizations   
   >>and private individuals on the Internet,   
   >>   
   >>For the last hundred plus years,   
   >>a small group of people at Time Magazine,   
   >>the New York Times, and the Washington Post,   
   >>have effectively controlled and manipulated society   
   >>and instigated conflicts and wars for personal power and profit.   
   >>   
   >>The Internet has diluted their power,   
   >>and it remains to be seen, if Google, Yahoo, MSN, etc.   
   >>or independent or paid bigots operating out of boiler-rooms   
   >>will be able to use the Internet to impose their agenda's   
   >>upon the larger society. So far the Internet Companies   
   >>have been clean but the bigots have been loud and active.   
   >>   
   >>Gore was "Gore'd" for "inventing the Internet".   
   >>Carter was "Carter'ed" for voicing his informed opinion.   
   >>Gibson was "Gibsoned" for saying what seems apparent.   
   >>And over the last six years I have seen hundreds of people   
   >>slandered for opposing Religious War instigations.   
   >>   
   >>How much of this was institutionalized.   
   >>and can be traced to some religious group, political party, etc?   
   >>   
   >>Regarding "jcon's comment:   
   >>"So you think that Pinku-Sensei, Kadaitcha Man,   
   >>Art Deco, et al are being *paid* to slander you?"   
   >>   
   >>No. I think that most of the 15 regulars in alt.kook   
   >>*** at this time *** are bigots, and sociopaths, and   
   >>low self-esteem people looking for a cheap ego trip.   
   >>   
   >>As can be seen, almost all of them are anonymous,   
   >>use high sounding handles, and are not too bright,   
   >>   
   >>but the danger is that the methods they use, can be  used   
   >>by political parties, religions, companies, lobbies, and nations   
   >>to control the expression of opinions on the Internet.   
   >>(To intuitionalism bigotry.)   
   >>   
   >>I will be promoting the use of Class Action suits   
   >>against companies and organizations that   
   >>use the Internet to "Swiftboat" and "Jimmy Carter"   
   >>people, and the Small Claims courts to go after   
   >>the individual bigots and sociopaths who   
   >>systematically attack messengers rather than address messages,   
   >>to call attention to the people that do this, or might do this,   
   >>to sensitize as many folks as possible to what can be   
   >>done to eliminate this very potential problem.   
   >>   
   >>Will I have my attorney institute a Class Action suit   
   >>against companies and organizations who   
   >>slander folks on the Internet   
   >>to control the free expression of opinions, ideas.   
   >>   
   >>Yes, if I find good evidence that any company is doing this,   
   >>and there are enough people slandered to make the effort worth pursuing.   
   >>   
   >>Will I push the filing of Small Claims against individual   
   >>bigots who systematically slander folks?   
   >>   
   >>Probably not, as it is not worth the trouble,   
   >>but if I hype the idea, perhaps some enterprising person   
   >>will put up a Web site and serve as a clearing house   
   >>to track down the real names and addresses of   
   >>people on the net who habitually slander folks.   
   >>   
   >>I am sure that many people would pay money to find out   
   >>who is slandering them, and sue them in higher courts   
   >>if the slanderer has assets worth going after.   
   >>   
   >>I am sure that scores of folks would pay for the   
   >>opportunity to sue three or four of the slanderers   
   >>in alt.kook. The question is,   
   >>who are they, and do they have any assets?   
   >   
   > The Really Big Conspiracy, engaged in an unending struggle to silence   
   > poor TommY Crackpotter.   
   >   
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