XPost: alt.history.british, alt.politics.british, soc.history.medieval   
   From: william.black@hotmail.co.uk   
      
   "Jack Linthicum"  wrote in message   
   news:1188997927.590191.21230@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Sep 5, 8:56 am, "William Black"    
   > wrote:   
   >> "John Briggs"  wrote in message   
   >>   
   >> news:WwxDi.35851$ph7.24179@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...   
   >>   
   >> > William Black wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> I am a freeborn Englishman and call no man my master save God and my   
   >> >> king.   
   >> >> (I wish I could remember who said that first)   
   >>   
   >> > A Google search only comes up with: "I am a freeborn Englishman, I   
   >> > kneel   
   >> > only before my God and my King."   
   >>   
   >> > Unfortunately, it was you who said it :-)   
   >>   
   >> > (You may be taking the role-playing too far...)   
   >>   
   >> No.   
   >>   
   >> It's a quotation I've heard somewhere and used a couple of times.   
   >>   
   >> Someone said William Penn.   
   >>   
   >> --   
   >> William Black   
   >>   
   >> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.   
   >> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland   
   >> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate   
   >> All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach   
   >> Time for tea.   
   >   
   > Since Penn was  a Quaker and they were famous in his era for their not   
   > showing any form of conformity with the then practiced  requirement   
   > that a lesser doff his hat to a better, that may be the original of   
   > this quote. Pepys has some drivel about Charles taking off his hat   
   > when Penn wouldn't, saying only one man should have his hat on.   
   >   
      
   I know that a bit earlier Lord (Thomas) Fairfax and his father Lord   
   (Ferdinando) Fairfax both had men imprisoned for 'refusing to uncover'.   
      
   Charles II probably had more sense than the Fairfaxes, who were 'new money'.   
      
      
   --   
   William Black   
      
      
   I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.   
   Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland   
   I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate   
   All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach   
   Time for tea.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)