From: gibberich@gmail.com   
      
   from various interactions)   
      
   Well way things is shaping it's starting to look like WAR with Indonesia &   
   Australia. Economic sanctions   
   by Indonesia being imposed on Australia & cutting diplomatic ties as the   
   spying scandal worsens   
      
   & the way im interpreting the why & wherefore of it as long as the New   
   Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbot is there   
   Indonesia will be hostile & things willl continue to deteriorate towards   
   War.Reminds me of the sectarian rift in the MB   
   community & as long as the sectarian crap persists there will be strife.& Tony   
   Abbot is to the Indonesians as unnacceptable   
   as MB religious sectarianism is to genuine sincere concerned MB lovers who   
   arent into sectarian violence.   
      
   Indonesians will just not cop Tony Abbot! Will his resignation avert a war? Or   
   is it too late?   
      
   If War happens Australia cant possibly militarily match it with overwhelming   
   sheer weight of multi zillion Indonesian   
   numbers but they could blow the Indonesian islands out of the water with   
   AMERICAN NUKES!   
      
   America will not use nukes except as a last resort.I believe America having   
   pulled their troops out of Iraq are near to   
   bringing in the Nuclear Option as they arent making any impact on the world   
   militarily   
      
   But i also think it's a big mistake to think that using the bomb as an   
   intimidatory bargaining chip will deter Indonesia.   
   Indonesians are Muslims & they dont worry about the consequences.   
      
   Muslims believe the Koranic acceptance of Jesus Moses Noah & Abraham as   
   genuine prophets   
      
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   Subject: INDONESIAN INVASION?   
      
      
      
   Back in 1999 someone suggested Australia should buy guns, stash them, & in the   
   event of an imminent Indonesian invasion   
   distribute them to the Australian population.Yes that was back in the 1999   
   East Timor crisis where Indonesian soldiers were caught   
   on camera hacking east timorese to pieces with machetes..."& if they come here   
   with their machetes we meet them with chainsaws!"   
   Remember?   
      
   This was a plan B strategy in the event the UN will leave it too late to come   
   to the assistance of Australia should war break out.   
      
   WHAT IF THE USA, A STAUNCH AUSTRALIAN ALLY,LEAVES IT TOO LATE TO USE THE   
   NUCLEAR OPTION TO HELP AUSTRALIA & STOP INDONESIA?   
      
   Having closely studied film of Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbot's recent   
   visit to Indonesia it appears Mr Abbot's social interaction   
   has a brusque friction causing swagger about it demeanorwise where even his   
   wife gives him a displeased "What the hell are you   
   doing Tony?" dirty look. Mr Abbot's diplomatic skills are under heavy media   
   barrage at the moment   
      
   My take is Mr Abbot's large entourage of business people that accompanied him   
   on the Indonesian visit DIDNT PUT BUSINESS   
   PROPOSALS ON THE TABLE BUT DID "DONE DEALS" ON A "THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING ON   
   OUR TERMS WHICH MUST BE ADHERED TO"BASIS.   
      
   ONE OF THOSE DEALS WAS A HUGE BEEF MEAT DEAL ON BEHALF OF australian party   
   leader BOB KATTER who negotiates big deals   
   on behalf of beef farmers.   
      
   That was lost when Indonesia cancelled current previously established business   
   arrangements with Australia & even took out their airforce   
   who were conducting joint cooperation war games with australian air force.Bob   
   Katter is an outspoken no nonsense scary spooky looking   
   politician who has   
   for his unorthodox methods attracted comments such as "Mad as a    
   atter"(hatter)...but he gets the job done   
      
   Let me tell you folks in Australian ABC TV's Parliament footage when Bob   
   Katter raises his question to the Government he didnt phrase it directly   
   but was clearly enraged when he addressed PM Abbot with "& THEY'LL SKIN HIM   
   ALIVE !) but Mr Abbot, a tough guy with willpower attested to   
   by his athletic prowess at his age put on a brave temporarily startled face.   
   So the Australian Beef industry lost a lot of money   
      
   So what do you suggest? Scorched earth policy for invading Indonesian armies &   
   whole australian population capable of fighting   
   converge on the starving Indonesian army & hit em with everything + the   
   kitchen sink?   
      
   Australia should invade Indonesia first? :-)   
      
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   I dont know how the Indonesian Australian drama will play itself out but my   
   honest opinion   
   regarding Meher Baba's 3/4 world destruction is that it ties in with the   
   Bible's Apocalypse & that   
   "& the islands were not found" means the Indonesian islands Hawai Fiji The   
   Solomon Islands Suva   
   Vanaatu Sri Lanka The Phillipines England/Ireland/Scotland,New z   
   aland,Tasmania & Japan & New Guinea   
   Nauru Christmas Island & Easter Island etc are going   
   sink or be earthquaked/tsunamied/submerged by rising seas/oceans & i seriously   
   suggest the populations should seriously   
   consider departing & relocating to larger continent landmasses BEFORE THEY   
   BECOME FISHFOOD (so should Muslims pay heed to biblical apocalyptic prophecy?   
   Well the Koran does accept Jesus as a true prophet)   
      
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   What about Hong Kong & Taiwan?   
    (How to warn them & would they ridicule the warning? :-)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)