XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: jollyroger@pobox.com   
      
   On 2015-12-09, nospam  wrote:   
   > In article , Jolly Roger   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> >>>> Is there a functional difference between talking &   
   >> >>>> talking-on-a-cellphone   
   >> >>>> when you compare it to distractedness?   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> I would say "Yes".   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> The difference being whether-or-not the person on the other side of the   
   >> >>> conversation is in on a covenant that says "Driving comes first".   
   >> >>   
   >> >> When you're talking with another person who's in the car with you,   
   >> >> they can see when a potentially dangerous situation is arising (e.g.   
   >> >> brakelights ahead on the freeway) and shut up. That isn't true of   
   >> >> someone at the other end of a cellphone conversation.   
   >> >   
   >> > that's a bullshit excuse.   
   >>   
   >> Nope, it's a valid observation and studies show the same thing.   
   >   
   > it's bullshit.   
      
   Sorry, but I'm not taking your word on that - especially when studies   
   show you to be wrong.   
      
   >> > a person using a cellphone while driving can toss the phone on the seat   
   >> > if conditions warrant.   
   >> >   
   >> > the person at the other end of the call does not need to see anything.   
   >> > they'll wonder what's going on, but that's about it.   
   >>   
   >> And because they are unaware of the driver's situation, the driver likewise   
   >> won't benefit from their presence and reaction to events around the driver.   
   >   
   > it's the driver's responsibility to not crash into things, not the   
   > passenger.   
      
   Straw man. Fail.   
      
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