XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   Paul M. Cook  wrote   
   > Rod Speed wrote   
      
   >> It isn't own that matters, its USING THE CELLPHONE WHEN DRIVING.   
      
   > You have to realize that I've been careful to mention   
   > only cellphone ownership and accident rates (not accidents,   
   > not injuries, not fatalities) throughout this argument.   
      
   > Since I'm human, I may have slipped up a couple of times   
   > in my ad hoc responses, but, I'm very clear on the data:   
      
   > 1. We know very well that cellphone ownership is near 100% in the USA;   
      
   Irrelevant to what percentage are stupid enough to use their phone WHILE   
   DRIVING.   
      
   > but we can *never* know what the use rate is while driving.   
      
   That is just plain wrong. That can be determined by observation/measurement.   
      
   > 2. We know very well what the accidents are in the USA,   
      
   No we do not with the more minor accidents.   
      
   > and the US Census Bureau figures out the miles driven   
   > (probably from gas tax and or other data); but we can   
   > *never* know which the distracted related accidents are.   
      
   That isn't accurate either if the cellphone base records are   
   used to determine whether the phone found in the drivers   
   hand in the wreck was being used at the time of the accident.   
      
   > 3. I've been doing all this for the USA because we don't have   
   > as reliable data easily available to us for the other countries.   
      
   That's wrong too.   
      
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