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   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: pmcook@gte.net   
      
   On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:59:01 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:   
      
   >> but we can *never* know what the use rate is while driving.   
   >   
   > That is just plain wrong. That can be determined by observation/measurement.   
      
   This would be *wonderful* data to have, but, nobody has it.   
      
   The idiots keep pointing to that essentially useless checkbox on   
   the police reports, which we all know to be overrepresented data,   
   because there is no easy way to tell if a cellphone contributed   
   to an accident.   
      
   You can't even tell if the cellphone was being *used* during an   
   accident for a bunch of reasons (e.g., not all cellphone uses   
   require a cellular signal).   
      
   If police, as a matter of habit, issued a subpoena upon *every*   
   accident, they could then probably at least tell if a text message   
   was occurring at the exact time of the accident, but, that begs   
   the question of when was the exact time of the accident.   
      
   Doesn't anyone see how bad the cellphone involved statistics are?   
   They're essentially useless.   
      
   Actually, worse than that, they're bad data because I believe police   
   tend to over use that checkbox.   
      
   That means most people are working off bad data.   
   No wonder they appear to be idiots.   
      
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