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   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   Paul M. Cook  wrote   
   > Rod Speed wrote   
      
   >> Cellphone ownership is completely irrelevant.   
      
   >> The ONLY thing that matters is TALKING   
   >> ON THE PHONE WHILE DRIVING.   
      
   > Not a single person disputed this, so, I'm not sure why   
   > you keep saying what everyone knew before this thread   
   > was ever opened.   
      
   Because you keep going on about cellphone   
   OWNERSHIP as you clearly did there.   
      
   > There is absolutely no good data for the number of users   
   > actually *using* the cellphone while driving. Period.   
      
   So you have no basis for your stupid claim that there   
   should be evidence of the risk with using a cellphone   
   when DRIVING in the accident rate.   
      
   > Likewise, the data for whether a cellphone was "involved"   
   > is even worse data, because it over represents that which   
   > it purports to display.   
      
   > You really need to look at my statements   
      
   I clearly did with that one I just quoted.   
      
   > because I have been extremely clear from the start   
   > as to what is good data and what isn't good data.   
      
   But clearly KEEP talking about cellphone OWNERSHIP   
   which is completely irrelevant to what is being discussed.   
      
   > I have always used the US Census Bureau's numbers on   
   > accident rates; and I have always stated that cellphone   
   > *ownership* has skyrocketed.   
      
   Pity that OWNERSHIP is completely irrelevant.   
      
   > Those who argue against the elephant in the room   
      
   There is no elephant or any room either.   
      
   > discuss anecdotal evidence, which even   
   > you, I hope, realize is not good data.   
      
   You don’t have any good data on   
   cellphone usage WHILE DRIVING.   
      
   > Those who argue against there   
   > being an elephant in the room   
      
   There is no elephant or any room either.   
      
   > also argue those studies that *prove* [sic] how   
   > dangerous cellphone use is while driving.   
      
   > Yet, nobody can find the accidents.   
   > Where are they?   
      
   They happen every day.   
      
   Just because they aren't accurately recorded   
   doesn’t mean that they don’t happen.   
      
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