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   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: pmcook@gte.net   
      
   On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 07:51:53 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:   
      
   > Because it isn't about OWNERSHIP.   
   >   
   >> You hate good data.   
   >   
   > You have no good data on CELLPHONE USE WHEN DRIVING.   
      
   Exactly my point!   
   My data matches perfectly!   
      
   The data doesn't match for those who claim that cellphone use is dangerous!   
      
   We all can agree the only good data we have is:   
   1. Accident rates, and,   
   2. Cellphone ownership.   
      
   We can all agree that the really bad data is:   
   3. Cellphone use while driving   
   4. Accidents related to cellphone use while driving   
      
   And, we may not agree, but it's clear to me the really bad data are   
   those so-called studies which *prove* [sic] that cellphone use while   
   driving is as dangerous as (name-your-most-headline-grabbing-disability).   
      
   So, finally you can see that the people who *claim* that cellphone   
   use while driving causes accidents have zero reliable data to back   
   up their claims.   
      
   Meanwhile, I claim nothing. Cellphone use or not use, ownership or   
   not ownership, doesn't matter one bit when you measure accident rates.   
      
   You may as well measure how many people wear green shirts, to compare   
   the effect with accident rates.   
      
   So, my proof is obvious. There is no effect whatsoever from cellphone   
   ownership or use since there is no effect on accidents.   
      
   The onus is not on me to show what the effect of cellphone ownership   
   or use is on accidents, since I can easily see that there is no   
   effect whatsoever.   
      
   It's those who *claim* there is an effect who need to produce   
   the data you seek, and, we know, they'll *never* be able to produce   
   that data.   
      
   Hence, they fall back on anecdotes and those so-called "studies".   
   Don't you see this? Or is it a whooosh for you too?   
      
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