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   Message 18,648 of 20,339   
   Paul M. Cook to Rod Speed   
   Re: Verizon finally allows wifi calling    
   13 Dec 15 22:46:24   
   
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   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: pmcook@gte.net   
      
   On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:09:28 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:   
      
   > Nope, for the same reason that a sensible person who   
   > says that driving around with your eyes closed is more   
   > dangerous than driving around with your eyes open   
   > doesn’t have to provide proof of that obvious fact.   
      
   That you think this way, must be how the others think.   
      
   It always amazes me how stupid most people seem, and, this   
   is why.   
      
   I don't actually think you're stupid, but you think in   
   such stupid ways that I think most people are just plain   
   stupid because they think like you do.   
      
   If "I" were going to say that driving with one eye closed   
   actually contributed to accidents, I'd have to find those   
   accidents in the accident reports.   
      
   If I knew that some people drove with one eye closed, and,   
   especially if I knew that there was a good chance that   
   *millions* of people drove with one eye closed some of   
   the time, I'd *look* for an increase in the accident   
   rate that proved my point.   
      
   If I found no such increase in accident rate, then, I'd   
   immediately stop assuming that people who drove with one   
   eye closed contributed at all to the accident rate any more   
   than people who drove with both eyes open.   
      
   That you think otherwise, is the funny thing here.   
   There's zero evidence that the overall accident rate has   
   any effect due to cellphones. This doesn't need to be proved   
   since it's in the figures in and of themselves. There is   
   no effect whatsoever.   
      
   You still think the onus is on me to prove the *absense*   
   of accidents, even when the cellphone proponents assume   
   that the accident rate is skyrocketing?   
      
   That's what's so amazing to me.   
   a. Those who make extraordinary claims, you feel they have no   
      need to back up that claim.   
      
   b. I make the most obvious and basic claim, which is *inherently*   
      backed up by the data since my claim comes *from* the data.   
      
   Sometimes I think the entire world is just stupid, but there were   
   a few on this thread who showed some sense, so, there is light   
   at the end of the tunnel.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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