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   Nicely said....   
      
      
   Per Les Cargill:   
   >(PeteCresswell) wrote:   
   >> Per Jolly Roger:   
   >>> Irrelevant. He has a degree. And a degree is not a reliable indication of   
   >>> how smart you are.   
   >>   
   >> I'll go along with that....   
   >>   
   >> But would also think that it's a pretty good indication that the   
   >> person's IQ is above room temperature - and that they have better   
   >> critical thinking skills than a non-college graduate.   
   >>   
   >> OTOH, there's Ben Carson and his belief that the earth was created less   
   >> than 10,000 years ago and that men walked with dinosaurs.... So I guess   
   >> the critical thinking part is not exactly ironclad...... -)   
   >>   
   >   
   >Ben Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist, which entails some pretty   
   >non-mainstream beliefs. We have these things partly because America   
   >was a place where people who were hounded out of civilization   
   >because of non-mainstream beliefs could find a place to live here,   
   >and because once they got off the beaten track, they were in a small   
   >isolated lagoon where they could grow.   
   >   
   >I have older relatives who are Adventists, and they're very gentle,   
   >hardworking, honest people. They're generally more literate   
   >than most. A couple are fine artists ( I was named for one )   
   >and this does not limit them in any way I've been able to find.   
   >   
   >At some point after/during the 1960s, it became more and more   
   >commonplace for people of faith to reject what they perceive as   
   >( or are told is ) "secular society". IMO, as the sheer quantity of BS   
   >form television built up, people just didn't want to be associated   
   >with the mainstream any more.   
   >   
   >Aren't we privileged to not have to worry about that?   
   >   
   >There was a time when it was expected that medical people were basically   
   >scientists of a sort. No longer. It's just ticket-punching until   
   >they get to the specialty  training. It's "is this gonna be on the test"   
   >for all those years...   
   >   
   >> That is not to say it works the other way.   
   >>   
   >> To wit: the Amish.  Extremely low educational attainment, yet - as my #1   
   >> daughter-the-farmer observes "They know how money works"... and the ones   
   >> I have interacted with are clearly nobody's fool.   
   >>   
   >   
   >During say, the 19th Century, you could have said the same of Harvard.   
   >   
   >The Amish may have low *secular* educational attainment, but   
   >they work pretty hard at their own version of liturgical   
   >and religious-philosophy learning. I have relatives ( who are   
   >not Amish) who didn't make it past high school, but continued   
   >their education through a church who might surprise you   
   >by the sorts of things they do know because of this.   
   >   
   >My aunt, who is a Church of God lay minister, is pretty well   
   >prepared on Greek philosophy because it's peripheral to the study   
   >of the apostle Paul.   
   >   
   >I cannot think of a happier human being than her.   
   --   
   Pete Cresswell   
      
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