XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: bashley101@gmail.com   
      
   On 01/07/2016 08:30 PM, Lewis wrote:   
   > In message    
   >    The Real Bev  wrote:   
   >> On 01/06/2016 03:47 PM, Lewis wrote:   
   >>> In message <0001HW.1C3CCACE0A27E8AF10CF373CF@news.giganews.com>   
   >>>    Savageduck  wrote:   
   >>>> On Jan 5, 2016, F Murtz wrote   
   >>>> (in article<568c8dc3$0$65279$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>):   
   >>>   
   >>>>> PAS wrote:   
   >>>>> > "Jolly Roger"wrote in message   
   >>>>> > news:devqebF4fotU3@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>> > > On 2016-01-04, Jolly Roger wrote:   
   >>>>> > > > (PeteCresswell)wrote:   
   >>>>> > > > > Per Lewis:   
   >>>>> > > > > > > That if anyone finds his phone laying on a desk or table etc   
   they   
   >>>>> > > > > > > can cause   
   >>>>> > > > > > > it to self-destruct in just five touches.   
   >>>>> > > > > >   
   >>>>> > > > > > What the fuck are you talking about>   
   >>>>> > > > >   
   >>>>> > > > > I think he is referring to phone security systems that initiate   
   data   
   >>>>> > > > > deletion if/when somebody attempts to log on with the wrong PW.   
   >>>>> > > >   
   >>>>> > > > What does that have to do with a law that prevents cops from   
   accessing   
   >>>> a   
   >>>>> > > > device without a court order?   
   >>>>> > >   
   >>>>> > > More to the point: Since the law prohibits cops from accessing   
   devices   
   >>>>> > > without a court order, the need for wiping the device after a certain   
   >>>>> > > number of failed attempts is diminished rather than increased.   
   >>>>> >   
   >>>>> > It's not safe to assume that the cops will obey the law. For example,   
   >>>>> > it's Constitutionally protected under the 1st Amendment to   
   >>>>> > photograph/record the police in public. That hasn't stopped the police   
   >>>>> > from arresting people for doing it at worst, harassing them for doing   
   it   
   >>>>> > at best.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And if they do access your phone and find something then even without   
   >>>>> being able to use it they then know you are suss and can concentrate on   
   >>>>> finding legal evidence   
   >>>   
   >>>> ...and that is only bad for you, if you are a criminal. Strangely enough   
   >>>> there are a few of those out there.   
   >>>   
   >>> Oh right, because the police and the prosecutors never set out a   
   >>> multi-year systematic system of intentionally framing and convicting   
   >>> people they *know* are innocent?   
   >>>   
   >>> Oh wait, that happens *every* *fucking* *day*.   
   >   
   >> I just binge-watched Making A Murderer.  Not a single member of the   
   >> legal establishment involved, most especially the judges and juries who   
   >> should have stood up halfway through the trials and demanded that the   
   >> cases be dismissed immediately, was anything but evil.   
   >   
   > But that is every day in every court in every state. The US Justice   
   > system is a machine that will do *anything* for a conviction and to get   
   > another paying customer into long-term incarceration.   
      
   Indeed.  Perhaps we need to have our noses rubbed in it more frequently.   
      
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